I think I attributed this colonial correctly...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by non_cents, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Hi folks. :)

    I had been searching for a NOVA CONSTELLATIO (or CONSTELLATIO NOVA) colonial coin for a while, and finally found one. It was misattributed as a 1787 Nova "Constellio" coin, and came from Europe, which maybe was the reason I got a decent price on it.

    (By the way...color is way off in the photos. These are the seller's photos, and I just edited them to put them together and do a touch up or two.)
    Anyways, thanks to this useful link provided to me (http://www.novanumismatics.com/numismatic-essays/attributing-the-nova-constellatio-coppers/), I think I have nailed the attribution.

    1783 Pointed Rays
    OBV: CONSTELLATIO NOVA, 2 L's in CONSTELLATIO, Ray points to the left of the first O (not clearly in between the letters).
    REV: Wreath, LIBERTAS ET JUSTITIA.
    This leads me to believe that the coin is Crosby 1-A, listed as R4.

    Thanks for looking!


    Simon
    nova constellatio obv:rev.png
     
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  3. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    A nice coin for sure - congrats on your pick! I'd love to add one of these or a Fugio to my collection in the next few years.
     
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  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I really want a fugio, but they are so dang expensive (for me). I see examples in G going for $300+ on ebay all the time. I got lucky with this colonial and got it for $70 (seeing as how other examples are going in the $200 range).
     
  5. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I was going to ask the rude question but you went ahead and answered it for me. I'd say $70 is very well bought. I have the same problem with Fugios. You see one for $300 and the planchet looks like a pressed cow patty. To get even a decent one with a decent planchet you're easily into the $500+ range. That's a little rich for my blood while my sets sit open. Maybe when I have my current sets done, I can get some of the "neat just to have it" stuff.
     
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  6. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Really hard to tell without seeing if it's a small or large US on reverse. Either way, that was a fantastic buy!
     
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  7. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Great pickup! Indeed it is a Crosby-1A.

    That is my favorite variety because of the clashing.
     
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  8. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Not sure, but I think the Crosby-1A is a Large US (cheetahcats may correct me if I am wrong).

    Makes it extra cool, as 1A has a rarity of R4! :D
     
  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Definitely 1-A. the clash mark visible through the rays under the "ATIO" and through the stars at "STEL" match exactly with my photos of a known 1-A.
     
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  10. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. But what part of the reverse is the clash a remnant of? It doesn't seem to match up with a typical die clash...
     
  11. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    It appears to actually be two separate off center clashes of the denticles around the rim.
     
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  12. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Ah, now I see. That makes sense. Thanks!
     
  13. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Just an update. This coin was sent to PCGS, and I just got word that it graded cleanly which I am very happy about... G06! I thought it might have made the F range, but I suppose the reverse really brought the grade down. Still, super pumped that it did not go details.
     
  14. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Nice colonial Simon. Glad to hear they graded it and didn't "details" it. A fine would have been nice, but many of these are a tough call even for the pros to grade. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to add one like it to my collection. Congrats!

    Bruce
     
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