1974-D Lincoln Cent Possible Date Error

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  1. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Could be coppercoins DDO #2, I'll post some more photos today A004 - 20130731_050049 (3).jpg A006 - 20130731_050343 (3).jpg A001 - 20130814_070826 (2).jpg
     
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  3. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Looks like it could be. The mintmark position looks close.
     
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  4. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Thanks for the response d.t. menace
     
  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Looks like it might be. Have you checked coppercoins for the different die markers? I think I see the scratches between the D and the date. I can't tell on the reverse though since the pictures are not zoomed in.
     
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  6. Rick Stachowski

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    coppercoin is the only one listing it, I will take photos of the markers which includes LIBERTY, and the MOTTO all obverse
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I know one thing David Q Bowers said in an article in Coin World a few yr back in the decades special look series. 1974 Denver + San Fan were swopping dies a lot.I am still waiting to see a 1974-D/S or S/D cent:cool:
    Good Photo RS!:) !.
     
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  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Heres some new photos, enjoy every one A028 - 20130915_062825 (2).jpg A017 - 20130915_061455 (2).jpg A020 - 20130915_062117 (2).jpg A022 - 20130915_062400 (2).jpg A023 - 20130915_062442 (2).jpg A025 - 20130915_062520 (2).jpg
     
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  9. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...are you sure it just isn't the large date variety for 1974? Coppercoins even says in the description for die 2

    Meaning that it isn't a doubled die, just the large date mimicking extra thickness.
     
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  10. Rick Stachowski

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    I showed it to potter at the last coin show, and he said worn die, which means DDO
     
  11. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    No...worn die means die deterioration doubling. Not a doubled die.

    Die deterioration doubling: also known as die wear, or die fatigue. http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling.html
     
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  12. Rick Stachowski

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    not all the time, the article states: sometimes, so that means not all the time
    Definition: Die deterioration (die wear, die fatigue) sometimes produces discernible doubling of affected design elements. We call this die deterioration doubling (DDD). Its appearance is highly variable. It is often raised but can sometimes be incuse. Incuse DDD is most often seen on copper-plated zinc cents, but does occasionally appear in other issues. Die deterioration doubling may completely surround an affected design element (like a number or letter) or may be restricted to one side.

    The images below shows die deterioration doubling on a 1955 Lincoln (raised), Jefferson nickel (raised) and 1989 Lincoln (incuse).
     
  13. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Rick...a worn die NEVER refers to a doubled die. The two terms are not interchangeable. There is not a single source you will find where die wear can be used to describe a doubled die. You can even ask Potter that the next time you see him. Your coin is a large date with die wear (meaning die deterioration doubling).

    When it says "sometimes", it means that die wear will sometimes result in die deterioration doubling, and sometimes die deterioration doubling will not be present. It has nothing to do with it being a doubled die or not.
     
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  14. Rick Stachowski

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    theres no questions here, just showing a coin, and using what coppercoins uses as DDO-002, thats all, never said anything else, thanks noncent, I do like you being around, so don't take nothing personally :)
     
  15. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I understand that, Rick, but keep in mind that coppercoins no longer recognizes die 2 as a doubled die. The listing is only there for educational purposes only.
     
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  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    thanks, noncents
     
  17. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    If you have Potter or Wexler Detail coin + have 1 of the 2 send the coin in. Tpg will use their detail Grade the coin to condition.
    coopercoin.com really is just a tool looking up dies Not Tpg.
     
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  18. david richardson

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  19. david richardson

    david richardson New Member

    Im am really new at this could you look at a coin and tell me what u think?
     
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