identify this roman? coin

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  1. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    had this for awile not sure how old it is whos on it history or even the value looks better in person cant capture the right light
     

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  3. froggycoins

    froggycoins Member

    Looks like Constantinus with the Gloria Exercitus reverse ( "to the Glory of the Army " ) 2 soldiers with 2 standards
     
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  4. Biancasdad

    Biancasdad Member

    I think more likely Constantine's son Constantine II. Obverse legend looks like CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C.

    Worth a few dollars in this condition but still a historical item nearly 1700 years old

    Regards,

    -Kurt
     
  5. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    any pictures to verify
     
  6. randygeki

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  7. enochian

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  8. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    :rolleyes: I have a very similar coin but mine was minted in Thessolonika, Greece. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  9. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    thats close
     
  10. enochian

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    actual what i thaught this was isent its a .smha which i cant find any where i found some very close ones but thoes were .smhg and im almost positive it ends in an a


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  11. enochian

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  12. enochian

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    this has to be it

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    A.D. 330-3
    18x18mm
    CONSTANTI-NVS MAX AVG rosette-diadem, draped, cuirassed
    GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS [The glory of the army] Two soldiers helmeted, stg. facing one another, reversed spear in outer hands, inner hands on shields resting on the ground; between them two standards.
    In ex. dot SMHA
    RIC VII Heraclea 116
     
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  13. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson


    That is a coin of Constantine I as Augustus, yours is a coin of Constantine II as Caesar. The obverse legend on yours is CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C.

    Using the RIC spreadsheets that have been posted several times in this forum, it took me less than a minute to find. For the areas they cover, they're actually much more complete than Wildwinds, and more accurate. Bookmark the page!

    Constantine II, as Caesar. Heraclea mint, struck AD 330-335. RIC VII 117
     
  14. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    thanks i just added that site to my firefox top sites list now i need to learn how to use it

    i didnt think it was RIC VII 117 because of the .smha gamma. wasent sure what gamma meant.

    if you didnt notice i posted a picture of RIC VII 117 under the maybe list thankyou
     
  15. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    This is a gamma - Γ - its the third letter in the Greek alphabet. There is no mention of the letter in the description of RIC 117 that I see.

    Do note that "RIC 117" can actually refer to an issue from any of the mints. The numbering resets with each mint.
     
  16. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    i havent figured out the spread sheet yet and wanted a picture to compare so i searched for ric v11 117
    and found this

    Constantine II AE3, Heraclea. CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C, laureate, cuirassed bust right / GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers holding spears and shields with two standards between them. Mintmark: dot SMH gamma. RIC VII Heraclea 117.

    btw the original thread is almost a year old and i have recently became more intrested in ancients and still havent completely figured this coin out
     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It is a listed type. RIC 117 Heraclea lists the Constantine II coin as having been produced by two of the five officinae used at that mint at that time. The two were A and gamma.
     
  18. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    where does that info come from id love to read and learn more about this
     
  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    If you want ID's by RIC, the best answer is to buy the books. There are ten volumes and a complete set runs a bit over $1000. I only own the volumes that cover the coins I collect most (volumes IV through X) never buying the earlier ones because I had other books I liked better. I wrote a review of RIC a few years back but still believe most of what I said then:
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/book.html#ric

    If my review does not talk you out of buying the books, I have another page on how to use RIC:
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/idric.html

    As old timers here know, I do not believe that finding catalog numbers for coins is all that important as part of my hobby. This is a minority opinion. I'd rather new collectors work on understanding concepts of collecting ancients and learning the terminology but the vast majority just want to assign a catalog number (probably with a rarity rating they don't understand). Before spending a few thousand on assorted books (I recently bought a ten volume set of Roman Republicans for $500 but that doesn't mean you should) I suggest you try to learn as much as possible from online sites (most are free and worth more) or by hanging around discussion groups like Coin Talk and asking questions when something is not clear. If you visited my pages linked above you can find the index to the rest of my pages by clicking on the banner at the bottom of the pages. After you have digested all that is online for free, you might want to start buying a few books. A few of us here have over ten feet of bookshelves filled and boxes of others in the attic so you might get several opinions on what books to buy.

    Where do you learn about ancient coins? 'Here' works for a start. A few of our regulars have been at this for a while (except our resident 'junior' who knows more about some things than most of us old guys). Most share rather willingly but if only you read long posts like this one.
     
  20. enochian

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    i never not read a post because its to long thoes contain the most info thanks
     
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