Cleaned or Not Cleaned?

You can still get $75-$90 for that one on eBay despite the cleaning.

 

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Fair enough, but would you or any of the other experts consider this coin as harshly cleaned? It has some wear and I'm thinking it would put it in AU category although most of the coin looks unc. Not sure why there is only rim wear on the one side and then rest of the coin looks almost untouched.

 

No comments on whether the coins are cleaned or not? I am particularly interested in opinions on the lighter 64. The seller claims they have been in a holder for 40 years untouched. What do you say?

 

The '64 looks like it might have been over dipped.

 

I'm assuming you're talking about the lighter one. The darker one has been cleaned and I'm thinking that it was not harshly cleaned, but I don't know for sure. The lighter one was a concern. It appears that all this seller's coins have something going on, but she claims they have not been cleaned by her and have been stored for 40 years. The coin just sold for $58 which would be a good price if it was untouched.

Right now I really would like come opinions on the rich dark brown 64. It has been cleaned, but I want to hear opinions as to 'harsh or not harsh' cleaning. There is some rim wear to the left of the shield and it appears there is some wear to the leaves on the left as well. I have two pretty basic questions.

1. Is this coin cleaned properly so as not to effect the value or in your opinion is it a harsh cleaning which adversely effects value?
2. What is your opinion on grade? (I am wondering how much the rim wear will effect the grade.)

 

You're right, I was referring to the second set of shots on the '64. As for the first, I don't think it has been harshly cleaned but the area around the '2' on the reverse looks suspect of something a bit more than gentle, but south of harsh......if you get my drift. Anyway, I'm going to message PennyGuy. He's got a passion for two centers that no one has.

 

I've been a two cent collector for quite a few years. In looking at the two most recent posts, post numbers 39 and post number 40, I concur with Doug that the coin in post 39 has been cleaned. The darker coin in post 40, appears to have been recolored as well.

 

Would you consider buying the one in post #40 if you were looking for a nice 64 in AU? I know the seller told me he paid $140 and he was duped into thinking it was uncirculated. A little unethical for him to put it up using the same description as the one who sold it to him. There is rim and a little leaf wear to the left side. Not sure how that would effect the grade. He did say it had been cleaned although I don't know how long ago and I don't know about coloring the coin.

 

don't buy that coin.

 

I already decided not to purchase the coin, but was wondering if anyone would recommend it and at what price.

 

I didn't say a nice price. At asked if anyone here would recommend that coin and if you did at 'what price'? In other words, what would you deem to be a fair price for the coin.

 

you can get bargains all day every day on ebay if you know what you are doing gd

 

I am not asking about bargains. I know what the prices are in general and I'm willing to pay a fair price. My questions are pertaining to individual coins and how certain things effect the value. Using the coin in post #40, it has been cleaned and someone here also said they thought it had been colored as well. I told that if a coin has been cleaned properly it isn't a big problem, but a harshly cleaned coin will effect value. My question was if this coin has been harshly cleaned or not. I assume that coloring is an absolute no no and kills the coins collector value. My other question is if rim wear is a big factor in grading. Let's assume this coin had not been cleaned or colored and perhaps had a more natural dark brown patina. Would the rim wear make the coin nothing higher than AU or could it go higher?

PS ... I have no plans to purchase this coin. My questions are to help me learn a little more about collecting and what to look for to find a good quality coin at fair prices and not over pay for a coin because eBay sellers are over grading and puffing up their coins for the best auction price possible.

 

According to the seller the coin has been cleaned. I'm not using my own expertise to say it has or not.

I agree that the coloring doesn't look right on this coin.

I thought that having wear would mean it isn't uncirculated and therefore you verified what I thought. Thanks

I was asking for everyone's opinion and not just your opinion. Sorry if you thought I was asking you the same question multiple times. The guy selling the coin said it has been cleaned and my question was not if it has been cleaned. Rather, has it been cleaned harshly? I don't know how to tell if it has been cleaned harshly or not.

 

I have to say that no I wouldn't buy that coin. Mainly because in another hundred years it might look OK, but I won't be around.

 

Yeah, I see there is definitely something there. It is the seller telling me that it has been cleaned and yet the photo does appear to show dirt in the leaves and the ridges of the shield. Is it possible that what appears to be dirt could be the dried coloring gunk?

PS ... It's kind of like swimming in a shark tank around dinner time with a raw blood steak hanging around your neck when you're looking for coins on eBay. There seems to be more whizzed, over graded, and terrible junk coin than anything else. On top of that they are are described as 'wonderful' and 'marvelous'.