Ancients => Hi Ho Silver, Away!!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by stevex6, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, as you've probably already realized, I'm kinda hooked on the ol' counterstamps ...

    => so this Horse with Head-of-Ammom kinda caught my eye ... I think that it Rocks!!

    Kings of Numidia Micipsa, AE27
    Date: 148-114 BC
    Size: 26.76mm
    Weight: 15.2 grams
    Obverse: Micipsa left
    Reverse: Horse galloping left., counterstamp head of Ammon left
    Attribution: SNG Cop 508, Maz 55
    Description: A nice bronze with bold and clear counterstamp of the head of Ammon … gF+/gF+

    Kings of Numidia Micipsa a.jpg Kings of Numidia Micipsa b.jpg
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    *sigh*


    ... huh ... I guess they can't all be winners, eh?

    That's okay mule ... you're okay in my books (giddy-up. friend)

    :oops:
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I like it. Its an interesting type, especially the counter mark. I never heard of Micipsa either. Interesting.

    *steps in horse pie on way out*..

    Darn it...:mad:
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Really? ...

    => c'mon man => this is a nice ol' rare, phat coin, with an awesome horse and even a counter-stamp tossed-in!!

    => this is a dirty, worn-out lookin' "winner"!!
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => thanks for your two-cents, Mat (awesome, I appreciate it!!)

    Hmmm ... it does kinda look like the poor ol horse mighta stepped in his own poop, eh?
     
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  7. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Cool
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    27 mm ... 15 grams!!

    *sweet*

    dawg => this is a big, fat, rare horse with a super-cool counterstamp!!

    geesh ... I'm goin' ta bed

    :confused:
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ooops, thanks non_cents ...


    okay "now" I'm goin' to hit the sack!!

    cheers, brothers!!
     
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  10. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Great Coin!

    Love this type!
     
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  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    nice one.
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    thanks guys
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Memo to CT posters living out West: Some of us go to bed before you post your late night specials. I do like the coin but the countermark so clear and well positioned is what makes this coin special.
     
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  14. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    I dunno about the appeal of counter stamps. I guess my earlier collecting of Mexican 8 realies, kinda ruined counter stamps for me. I detest the "Walked over in China" counter stamps that I find on so many 8 realies. I suppose I should not let this prejudice seep over to ancients, but I can not help it. I do like the horse though. :eek:
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I tend to agree with that but I make a distinction between banker's marks that are applied by the dozen with no consideration for where they fall and artisticly designed carefully applied punches that are as fine art as the coin they are found on. I also can be turned off by marks that destroy important detail on the other side so it is not necessarily the case that all c/m's are good or all bad.

    My favorite is this Pergamon owl that appears to have been swallowed by the snake. It flattens the beard of Aesculapius but leaves a decent obverse.
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  16. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have been on the fence with countermarks with ancients. There is some that I tend to not care for and those are usually the ones that are rectangle in size and have letters in them. I see them on claudius and nero AEs alot.

    Then there is countermarks where there is a figure of some sort and its hard to distinguish what it is.

    But I do like the countermarks where a figure is clear and interesting.

    Both coins shared here I like the stamps.

    Oh and bankers marks. I have been getting many republics as of late with them. At this time, they dont bother me & I kinda like them. They give the coins character which I can live with over holes, split in half and so on.
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, sorry about that ... I went out for dinner with the wife and a few friends, so by the time I got around to purchasing and posting that coin it was already starting to get pretty late (my bad) ...

    => I totally agree ... well, I like the horse as well, but the countermark and it's non-intrusive placement brings the whole coin together.

    Ripley, thanks for your honest comments ... that's why coin collecting is so interesting (we all seem to like and dislike certain types of coins, but "overall" we all love coins)
     
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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ... just thought I'd toss-in a bit of info (I knew nothing of Micipsa prior to buying this coin)
     
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  19. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    No kidding its not like we learned about him in school.

    "Ok class, today were gonna learn about Micipsa & then you have to do a 10 page report on what you learned."
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ;)

    ... yah, I think I may have skipped-out that day and gone to the beach?
     
  21. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Steve, good look'in coin, counter stamp coins are very interesting, this one's well placed and doesn't take away from the coin. Are there any counter stamp tools or punch's been found from these time period's, seems like there's been counter marks from B.C. to current coin's. Anyone seen one???
     
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