Holy cow!!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by cremebrule, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. cremebrule

    cremebrule Active Member

    Hi all,

    I recently bought a toned coin online with extremely lackluster photos. Here's the seller's photos:

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    The starting price was at $5; the coin was described as AU. I thought, "Heck, the coin looks like it has some nice rainbow toning with a strong chance it's AT, but it looks nice enough for a longshot."

    I offered to BIN for $15, and the seller accepted the offer and shipped it out. The package came today; here's what rolled out of the package:

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    Holy flippin cow!! My jaw dropped when I saw the deep rainbow toning on the reverse. The coin has booming luster; this coin is certainly not an AU and probably more of a low to gem grade Kennedy.

    I apologize for the lackluster photos; they were quick ones with the coin still in its flip that it came packaged in. These photos were NOT juiced; the colors shown are true to in-hand inspection if not deeper and richer in hue when actually seen in-hand.

    Had to share this beauty online with you all, hope you enjoyed the eye candy! :)

    -CB (Edited for spelling errors)
     
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  3. Rickipedia

    Rickipedia Korean YN at 12

    GEt it slabbed and sell it for triple
     
  4. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    and its 40% silver to boot.
     
  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The reverse toning still looks questionable to me. But either way, the coin is attractive.
     
  6. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    I'm betting if it grades cleanly, it will sell for triple that triple.
    But I do believe it will be hard to get a clean grade with all that purple showing. I'd say it is worth a gamble, but it might get into a details holder.
     
  7. talkcoin

    talkcoin Well-Known Member

    Way Cool...Nice Hit, he has the neck scales of a nice strike and looks MS to me. Plus the Awesome color...Forgetaboutit; I Love it!
     
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  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't know if the color would be acceptable at the major grading services, but the fingerprint on the obverse would be a turn-off for me. Personally, I wouldn't spend the money to have it certified. A close friend of mine who sells many toners on eBay recently told me that sales prices have dropped considerably of late. If you're intent is to flip it, I'd be surprised if you recovered the expense of certification.

    Chris
     
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  9. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    It hints at AT to me, but at any rate it is attractive though and I would just keep it and forget about tombing and flipping.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    One more time:

    Take the coin out of the holder prior to taking pictures.
     
  11. flathead62

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  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Toning looks OK to me, nice score!
     
  13. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Good heavens, for the price of bar tip ! plus 40% silver... thumbs up, beauty !!
     
  14. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Good eyes, nice coin.
     
  15. cremebrule

    cremebrule Active Member


    I don't think the mark in front of Kennedy's face is a fingerprint. There seems to be gold/grayish toning in that area with parts where it "flaked" off (giving it the fingerprint look). I rolled the coin under the light and cannot find any luster breaks in that area to indicate a fingerprint either.

    As for sales of toners as of late, I've found that they are constant and rarely fluctuate; at least in my past experience. It's a moot point though, since I don't plan to sell the coin at the moment anyways. The main reason I'm planning to get it slabbed is to protect the coin from toning "past its prime", or at least slow down the toning progression, and have the slabbed coin match my other similarly toned roosevelt dime (PCGS MS66). And of course, PCGS slabs are much easier to liquidate than raw coins (especially in the toner department) if it does come time to sell.

    IMHO, the biggest issue with the coin is the obverse pastel colors with a somewhat abnormal pattern around the rim. For me, the reverse is simply too lustrous, the toning progression too smooth, and the "money" color (bold green) too vivid for me to call it AT. I would at least call this MA, and I believe PCGS would agree as well.

    Thanks for all the responses! It was interesting and insightful to hear what everyone else thought. This coin will hopefully be shipped out soon to robec for him to photograph; maybe evaluation will be easier when (much) better photos are shown :)
     
  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I don't think it will grade. To me the reverse colors are too neon, and look AT to me. I doubt that either PCGS or NGC will put it in a non-details slab. It is a MS coin, but I just feel that it isn't genuine toning.
     
  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice pickup.
     
  18. petro89

    petro89 Member

    Holy cow indeed! That is a stunner!

    Nice pickup!
     
  19. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Very nice coin, although I don't think it'll grade cleanly.
     
  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Everone's a critic. Unhelpful. Absolutely stunning coin and I'm glad I got to see it.
     
  21. Prime Mover

    Prime Mover Active Member

    That's one awesome Kennedy. I love the toning on it, gradable or not.

    Quite honestly a 50/50 chance with PCGS looking at the colors. I just picked up some toners that had much less of a vivid color pattern, looking much less AT, in details quest. color holders from them. I may crack them out and send them to NGC to get their opinion as I've seen similar coins with grades by them, but very low on the priority scale. Irregardless I love the coins whether details or not so that part doesn't matter to me.

    Sweet grab, great gamble. Enjoy!
     
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