90 degrees of FAIL

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by vlaha, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    I bought this misalignment from my local coin shop yesterday it was labeled as a nine over eight overdate and I was wondering:
    (1)does this come standard with this variety?
    (2)If it doesn't, what do you think it's worth? 90 degrees of fail, bolth sides.png View attachment 275338 90 degrees of fail, rev..png
     
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  3. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Sorry, I forgot to post this.
     

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  4. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    well i had one of the same variety and it was also extremely rotated, i took it to my LCS and they said it is extremely common and isn't worth anything extra to them, but it being rotated may want buyers to pay a little bit more. that is just what they said, i thought any coin like that was special, but i guess them being made back then, it was more common to get messed up

    in my opinion they are worth more, but not according to them. but to a rotated reverse collector, it would be worth more
     
  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    A rotated reverse seems to be common on this variety, but I don't know how extreme it can get. Both examples in the Holmes die variety collection were 25 degrees CW. The example in his error coin collection was 30 degrees CCW. Obviously the die was free to move.
     
  6. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    large cents are very common with rotation errors hey TJ the large cent your talking about is that the one you traded me
     
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  7. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    yes it is! :)
     
  8. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Interesting. Well this one is about 85 to 90 degrees so I don't know what to think of that. By the way, how did they secure the dies on the presses? This would make a cool display.

    I got this for book so no loss:p.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The dies would be locked in place with a set screw. The early die bodies were cylindrical so they might grind a small flat on the side of the die to make the screw set better, but if the screw worked loose from the vibration of the press the die could work loose and start to rotate. It was basically the anvil die that did the rotating because if the hammer die worked loose enough to rotate it was often loose enough to fall out.
     
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