That FERT is ... an abbreviation, and connected to the House of Savoy What it actually means is not known for sure though. See here (Wikipedia), and the Italian version, though more detailed, does not provide the "ultimate" answer either. And yes, Filippo Speranza designed (and engraved, I suppose) that coin. (Link in Italian) As for whether coins of colonies or "remote" territories should be counted as coins of the issuing country, or of the area where they were used ... in my opinion, that depends on how you collect. Let's say you have a huge collection of coins from all over the world - then it makes a lot of sense to have the "Colonial" Philippines (Spanish, US) in the same folder/box/whatever as the independent Philippines. Somebody who focuses on US (or Spanish) coins, and has just one or two colonial Philippines pieces, will consider them to be parts of a "US" or "Spain" collection. In other words: no rules. And here in Coin Talk -- well, when in doubt, use the Coin Chat forum. Christian
Some nice tone on this gem. I have been coin hunting for the last three weeks. Found some cool stuff.
I just ordered this earlier this morning. I've always wanted a Soviet coin, and in a few days I will have one.
Nice coin, here's a photo of my, this was my grand-fathers, he was in the navy, in world war 2, and thats where this coin came from, so my tells a little different story
It is mostly about the story. Found this one in a bucket of change. It is a 1935 1/2 sol without AP engraving with fineness. A scarce coin and nice example. I also found the same coin without fineness.
"The Queen is large in stature, but rather what might be called bulky than stately. There is no dignity either in her face or figure, and the graces of majesty are altogether wanting. The countenance is cold and expressionless, with traces of an unchastened, unrefined, and impulsive character, and the indifference it betrays is not redeemed by any regularity or beauty of feature." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_II_of_Spain The denomination is "20 centavos de peso", and that suggests the Spanish Philippines as far as I know. Spain had introduced a new currency shortly before which had "céntimo de escudo" pieces. What is also interesting that those coins were still minted, all dated 1868, even long after Isabella had left Spain ... Christian
The ones dated 1868, such as your coin. Isabella left, or had to leave, Spain and moved to France in late 1868 - so it makes sense that the (about 1.7 million) pieces made for the Philippines in that year show her portrait. However, they continued to strike them for five more years (another 700,000 coins); no idea why. Since it would have looked odd if a, say, 1870 coin had featured Isabella, those later ones are dated 1868 as well. Christian
Feel free to post it here. :thumb: BTW, if someone lives outside the USA, then I would enjoy if they posted an ocasional US coin in this thread. Technically, it would be their "foreigh acquisition". (Pardon my spelling :devil: ). Of course, there are better places at CT to post US coins. :smile
Most of these 1933 5 centavos were melted down. This might also be one of the best known specimens. I have not seen a graded one yet. Very strong strike also.
These coins 1935 1/2 sol had the engraver initials AP on the wreath. The ones without is slightly more uncommon. Some latin coins were made from different quality dies. Fineness, as NGC refers to it, is found in some cases during the initial strikes. Later coins were made from less finer dies. This is how I understand it.