1970 and 1971 US proof sets with no "S"

Not sure how this forum is moderated regards threads. Might be safest to start a thread on mint sets, at least that way searchers of title only would benefit and the proof confusion regards your coins might lessen.

 

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"1971 US MINT SETS with No "S" No MM on Pennies in "Blue D & S" Holder, "D" Penny OK

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WE would like to split a thread going forward with all comments to date being maintained in each.

First New Thread: "1970 and 1971 US Proof Sets (Only) with no "S" on a coin


Second New Thread: "1971 US MINT SETS with No "S" No MM on Pennies in "Blue D & S" Holder, "D" Penny in Red Holder


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Thank you We are wanting to correct this.

 

Thts because the OP asked about proof sets but showed pictures of "mint sets". The two terms are commonly interchanged by folks who have little technical experience.

 

I think you'll have to start the threads as in my 9 years on coin forums, I've never seen a moderator or administrator go through and actually split a thread.

They move threads, delete threads, edit threads but splitting a thread?

 

From 1974-1986 the West Point facility struck Lincoln Cents bearing no mint mark. I wonder if I have any of these 'W'less 'W' mint coins in my mint sets. Sure as the devil makes me almost want to tear through dem sets and find out............and those s'less 'S' silver eagles. Oh to think I might have one of them too.

Splitting threads? More like splitting hairs if ya ask me..........

 

Rif

Reading Is Fundamental, as is visual acuity. Far as I can see the 'OP' has one and only one post to his credit, and no 'pictures' Now, I have no clue about most of the technical anything with coins ...but... not to be on about the particular years in the OP or what rocket is on about ... but ... what happens to the dies when the proofs are all done being struck? do they live on to strike more coins? if a proof set was known to goof something up, should we not find it later as well? perhaps it would be worth while to look at the die markers for the proof goof ups in the appropriate residual population, do you all not agree?

 

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Yet Mine is a MINT SET, PROOF sets are known for the no s error in 1971.

Mint sets are not evidently. So is this Proof & Mint set or are only Proof Set considered a Penney, supposed to be from San Francisco where it was mailed from?

I will wait to understand a reply. I enjoyed seeing San Francisco send 2 s pennies in one Mint set in the 60's an obvious mistake. Yet My horse is a different shade grey. Neither Penney came from the same die.


My pet raccoon's name is Rocket.

 

Perhaps one of the experts will chime in here and let us know if proof dies were later used for biz strike coins. That aside, in 1971 they did make S cents for biz strike. 1970 was the year for the small date S coin. Have a good look at your coin for small date, that would throw a monkey into the wrench, no S (when it is supposed to have one) and be the rare small date from the S mint. Do NOT remove it from it's position in the plastic What size date did the no mark philly coins have that year?

 

The Philly coins in 1970 were large date. As for proof dies, they are only used for proofs. Sometimes a proof die will get mixed in with the business strike dies, but not after striking proofs. The WAMs of '98, '99, and '00 were proof reverses. This was when Philly was making the dies for both itself and the San Francisco mint. They got a few of the proof reverses bound for San Fran mixed in with their own.

 

So then, if he has a small date - game on!

 

Hmmmmmmmmm ...

BUT for some years: "From 1974[5] through 1986, the West Point Mint produced Lincoln cents bearing no mint mark, making them indistinguishable from those produced at the Philadelphia Mint.[3]" AND IF " In 1968, it took over most proof coinage production from the Philadelphia Mint, but continued striking a supplemental circulating coinage from 1968 through 1974 ...The dollars bear a mintmark of an "S", but the cents are otherwise indistinguishable from those minted at Philadelphia (which bear no mintmarks, unlike those years' proof cents from San Francisco and circulation cents from Denver)"

 

I think you're in over your head. Maybe it'll make sense after you've been in the hobby for a few more years.

 

And yet, even today, even lowly I can see this statement "A "non-Stamped" S coin would be a Philly Coin. No ifs, ands, or buts! " needs some work.

 

Well considering at the times when San Francisco and West Point were making cents with no mintmark they were not officially mints, they were considered to be striking these coins as an annex of the Philadelphia Mint. So although records were kept of the number each struck, they were considered to be Philadelphia coins. (Which is sensible since it is impossible to tell where any given non-mintmarked coin was actually struck.)

 

I think that someone would have to have a deeper understanding of the US Mint and its Branch mints vs Annexes before they'll understand and accept this.

But...........whatever.

 

Me too.

 

Not sure if your assessment is accurate. Weren’t all 1966 business strike Kennedy half dollars coined at the Denver Mint? I believe you will find that for 1965 and 1967 also, the Kennedy half dollars for circulation were only minted at Denver. :devil:

 

Yer welcome