1874-S Trade Dollar, 420 grains 900 fine

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  1. iyadoud

    iyadoud New Member

    Dear All

    I have a 1874-S Trade dollar with a photo inside for a lady dressed from that time.

    if Could help please in

    1.How can I track this coin
    2. The value of this coin

    Thanks
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Stymied with this one.............
     
  4. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Hmmm....

    1. Is the photo "actually" inside the coin to just "with" the coin?
    2. Do you "actually" have/own this coin or is this one you're considering to buy?
    3. What do you mean by "track" the coin?
    4. Value is related to grade...do you have a picture to share?
     
  5. iyadoud

    iyadoud New Member

    I discovered that the coin can be opened when dropped on the tile, the photo is inside for a lady I think from that time, the photo is in black and white. I have a picture can't upload it now. It looks it was costume-made for that person
     
  6. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    It sounds very interesting!

    Numismatic value? ...melt.
     
  7. iyadoud

    iyadoud New Member

    do you have any Idea on the Value? I checked some websites it could reach up to $17,000 when it has S , but not like this coin that could be opened, you can google for the image of the coin ( 1874 trade dollar, 420 grains 900 fine) you find many images
     
  8. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    if the photo was inside the coin then it wouldn't be a real trade dollar. posting a picture of the actual item would help a lot
     
  9. iyadoud

    iyadoud New Member

    this is the photo of the coin image.jpeg image (1).jpeg
     
  10. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

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    Most collectors I know shy away from coins that "open".
     
  11. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    It could be a novelty coin made from a real trade dollar , but your pics are not clear enough for me to tell if it was a real Trade dollar . If it was a real I'd say it could be worth around $50 up to $100 . But in reality chances are that it's fake . Still I'd love to see some larger clearer pics to tell if it was once a real coin .
     
  12. iyadoud

    iyadoud New Member

    I will take more photos with good camera, those ones took them with my phone
     
  13. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    it doesn't look real
     
  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    What has me intrigued is the dentils or lack of them . If it was real and machined to be a little picture holder thats the part that would be machined . Also if it was made to carry a picture of a loved one around in someones pocket it could be well worn like the ops piece . Granted this is all speculation without clearer pics , but so far that's all we got .
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm thinking this a box dollar and worth more than melt.
     
  16. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    What ld said.
    If it is it's a neat exonumia item, especially with the period photo.
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    OK, I'll bite. What's a 'box dollar'?
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Some used to call them opium dollars. They have a hollow spot inside. It took two coins to make one.
     
  19. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    I'd like to see a photo in the "open" position. I believe this would have to be made from two coins (as Larry stated).... but it's hard to tell the authenticity from the pictures provided.
     
  20. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Better Photos would Help !!! Every Ones!:yes:!
     
  21. superc

    superc Active Member

    There are a lot of fake Trade Dollars out there, of many different types. Yen is the most common, but we sent so many over there, without handling it to see, the coin could be real, or it could be a fake. Regarding the photo, the odds of a victorian era photo surviving WWI and WWII, and whatever other small conflicts the places the coin has been have been involved in, inside for over 100 years are fairly slim. There are many fake Victorian era photos out there. Some made with actual photo chemicals of the day and done on original photo paper so even C14 dating won't prove things one way or another.

    What the description tells me is this is a novelty item and very probably fake/counterfeit. The tip off is in the post heading. 420 grains, 90% fine. Yes, real, unaltered, trade dollars fit that description. However, once you hollow it out so you can stick a photo in it, no way should the weight not change. Therefore if it still weighs 420 grains, then it is made of something other than 90% silver.
     
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