PCC grading?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Dj Shift, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    Has anyone ever heard of PCC (Premier Certified Coins) Grading?

    Because i cant find much about them but i just payed $3.00 for a 2003 "Proof 70" Kennedy Half Dollar slabbed by them and i still think it's a fairly good deal since it's one made after 2000 and it is a proof and it was so cheap but i dont think this is a very good grading company since the coin does have a small scratch and that would make it no longer a PF70. I would call it more of a PF69 or 68 since it's a fairly deep scratch (although it's in an area that isn't as looked at).



    I'll post pictures of the coin when i get to a computer i can upload photos on.
     
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  3. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Never heard of them either, but since it's a "deep" scratch, it might even drop to the 66 range...
     
  4. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    I suggest get nothing graded from the outsiders, only stick with ANACS PCGS and NGC
     
  5. Iceman444443

    Iceman444443 Member

    I did a search and found this:

    www.premiercertified.com

    "No information on this grading company. Any TPGS without a website, address, phone number or email are usually "self-slabbers" who grade their own coins, sell them, and don't accept submissions from the general public. These companies are not recommended unless one can tell, first-hand, that the coin is authentic, problem free (not cleaned or damaged), and graded appropriately."

    Everything they grade is either a proof 70 or MS 70. I would not purchase one of their slabs for anything.
     
  6. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    I didn't know what the company was untill after i bought and looked at it on the way home.

    I figured since it was only $3.00 there wouldn't be too high of a risk. And the coin seems authentic but the grading company; i cant say the same for.
     
  7. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    And that explains the messed up grade of Proof 70! I knew that was wrong. I thought the company had to get it in absolutely perfect condition to call something that.

    I should've known that was messed up when i saw another coin slabbed by them for sale (a 2008 S proof Quarter) with four small dents in the edges of the coin.
     
  8. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    Possibly. But by deep i dont really mean like a scratch from circulation, i mean like a staple mark if it was put in a flip before.

    It might be a 67 or 66 though.

    And the slab is really, really scratched.
     
  9. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Well, worst case scenario, you paid $3 for a $2 coin and a holder. I don't think you did poorly, regardless of it being a self-slabber. :D
     
  10. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    Yeah, and at least it looks cool.

    and now that i have an American proof coin to use as an example, it'll be easier for me to tell them in the future when CRHing.
     
  11. lackluster

    lackluster Junior Member

    I think you would have better off just buying a 2000 us proof set which you should be able to get for about $6. That way you have 10 proof coins for about twice the money.

    Lack
     
  12. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    true, but the store i was at didn't have any of those. They just had a few PCCs and a few PCGSs.

    And one awesome framed poster with a photo of Roosevelt and one of each year silver dimes. I wanted that the most but it was $75.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    They have been around for two or three years, but they are a "basement slabber", treat them as raw coins.
     
  14. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    Okay. So does a PCC slab change the price of the coin at all? For better or worse? Or does it just protect the coin and be ignored.
     
  15. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    When the above gentleman said they are a "basement slabber" so treat as raw, he means that your coin should be viewed no differently than one in or out of a 2"x2" or any other generic holder. Keep it as is or crack it... makes no real difference.

    Depending on how significant this "scratch" is, it could easily cause your coin to be worth as little as face. With similarly common and inexpensive moderns, I strongly suggest that in the future you avoid examples with such problems/issues like you would the plague.
     
  16. Dj Shift

    Dj Shift Active Member

    It's not extremelly significant but it is there and that might bother some people. I didn't really look at it too much when i was in the store so i didn't really see the scratch before i bought it (the store always keeps their lights off).

    I should've bought a Mercury dime for $2.20 instead though.
     
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