Coins, a sound way to invest for retirement.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, May 11, 2013.

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The best possible investment you can make is in a highly marketable skill.
     
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  3. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Thanks for the advice...I just enrolled in "Monkey Gladiator" school.

    (Please don't change your avatar...or this post will make no sense)
     
  4. rockyyaknow

    rockyyaknow Well-Known Member

    :dead-horse: :headbang: :desk: :computer:
     
  5. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Not all coins are good for investment. Sure, most key dates and rarer coins will eventually rise in prices and I wouldn't disagree with that. But to stretch it to all coins, I disagree. I've seen prices falling down.
     
  6. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Investment in things like coins or art often require a fairly long time horizon. In other words, I wouldn't invest my "rainy day" funds in coins.
     
  7. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 Nothing

    Detecto, I think you're one of those people that love to be abused...
     
  8. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member

    :headbang: $5 in 1970 gets you $12 for a US coin.....
    In 2010, you would spend around $28 to purchase items that totaled $5 in 1970 (relative purchasing power based on the Consumer Price Index for US)


    In 2012, $5 saved in 1970 would be worth:$44.70 if saved in a short-term asset.
    $123.00 if saved in a long-term asset at a term of 30 years.
    $250.11 if saved in a S&P portfolio with dividends reinvested.

    $233.00 if saved in a gold portfolio.


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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Coins are a hobby. Don't loose track of that. When the day comes to sell, you will get part of your money back. You can't say that about most hobbies.
    Sorry Tim but you don't have a clue about what you are talking about.
     
  10. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    I would like to mention that with inflation, if you have a 2.4x increase from 1970 to now, you have lost money. Acorrding to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/, a dollar in 1970 is equal to 6 now. So, if your baseline is $1 in 1970, or $6 now, and it "increases" to $2.40. That means that you have lost $3.60, over a course of 43 years. So, perhaps that isn't the best investment after all. Even your world coin example is only an increase of about 3.5x, which, again, with inflation, is a decrease. With a baseline of 1$, you have $3.50 now, which is a loss of $2.50 over 43 years. Inflation is not kind to even the best possible outcome of your theoretical investment...
     
  11. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    So the silver trime I bought in about 1970 for 4.00 that is now valued in the red book at about 42.00 wasn't a good investment?
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Not compared to a decent stock portfolio. It was certainly better than tucking four greenbacks under the mattress, and probably better than putting it toward a CB radio. :)
     
  13. Coin Monger

    Coin Monger New Member

    I buy silver and gold coins because I love them and they are a reasonably sound investment. Whether they gain or lose money depends on when you sell them. I also invest in stocks. I think coins are much more fun and enjoyable than stocks.
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm Livin' Large Lee.........:)
     
  15. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    C'mon Ken , you've made Billions collecting coins , tell us your secret . :)
     
  16. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    lets start a coin investment sca.. i mean scheme right here on CT we could all do with a few extra bucks :D
     
  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The I word (invest) should never be used when speaking of coins.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Never mind, was a post pointing out how the prices from 1970 didn't keep up with inflation, but I see it has already been done.
     
  19. Nuglet

    Nuglet Active Member

    Yep, I agree that thinking of it as an investment is not a good idea, there are a lot worse things to spend money on though, and most people will spend money, not just hoard it in the bank and stocks. Very few of the things that we spend money on for enjoyment ever hold much resale value, coin collecting is one of the few examples. But, thinking of coin collecting as an investment can be dangerous because that can be used as a justification to spend more than one can afford IMO.
     
  20. Tim: Much better for you to save for college or pay down your debt/bills on time than to invest in coins at this stage in your life. TC
     
  21. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member

    Sure it was & congrats on it:thumb:;
    I'm not saying coins can't be a good investment, many are, as yours proves & I'm sure there are many folks on the forum who've done quite well with coins over the years, including myself.

    My point though was, if someone thought coins are investment because a US coin worth $5 in 1970 is now worth $12 & every coin value in the redbook has gone up in 43 years --> an inaccurate view of facts that lead to an inaccurate conclusion. A dollar invested in anything in 1970 would have to increase by about 5.62 in order for it to be worth the same in 2010, so an actual increase in value would have to be 5.63 or more based solely on the US CPI.

    Now I think I'll :taped-shut: on the subject & go back to looking at coins:smile
     
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