Germany coin thread (only the best)

Wow. Beautiful!!!!

 

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Thanks. Only wish I could learn a little more about it, if it was struck in bronze, rare in silver etc.

 

Actually...,, Nazi propoganda was nearly as effective at the end of the war as it was at the beginning. And the Germans believed it. Hence, when Berlin told the German civilians on the eastern front that the advancing Russians would kill them all, they believed it. But instead of sticking around to fight the Russians many of them fled south to Dresden. Which unfortunately for the refugees, didn't work out too well once the Allies firebombed Dresden on February 13, 1945. Pretty much the biggest single atrocity of the entire war, something like half a million civilians roasted alive, but such are the wages of war.

 

They
still listened to the government on where to flee...

Where would you go
if you knew an approaching army could want to kill
you?

Revenge...

Churchhill kept his word...

For
every bomb dropped on England, they dropped two on Germany...

Destroying
Dresden was specific revenge for Coventy, which was annihilated in 1940.

 

Sorry, afraid you're wrong on all counts there. The Nazi propaganda was intended to convince German civilians on the eastern front to resist the Russian advance or risk annihilation by the invaders. The last thing the Nazis wanted was for them to flee which only sped the Russian advance on Berlin.

As for the British, revenge had little to do with it, though for certain it may have made them feel less guilty about what transpired. The real purpose in dropping 6 million pounds of incendiary explosives on the city was to show Stalin what the Russians could expect to happen to them if his troops advanced past eastern Europe. By February of 1945 there was little doubt about the outcome of the war, and FDR and Churchill were more concerned about the post-war and Russian occupation of eastern Europe than they were defeating the Germans or getting even with them or anything like that. It could be said that because of the Holocaust, and the proximity of Dresden to most of the concentration camps, that those Germans who fled there only to be killed had it coming. But again, wasn't part of the reasoning behind the events that destroyed the city.

 

No, I am not...

Maybe, a little research will do a lot of help before arguing...

It's a mix...

Both are thought of as possible, with it possibly being a hidden message to flee.

That was secondary.

The destruction of Coventry was devastating to Britain during the war, as it was a cultural and historical centre in Britain...


FACT: Churchill destroyed Dresden because of Coventry...

 

While I am sure that you are all experts when it comes to German history, which apparently is something that began in the 1930s and ended in the mid-1940s , it may be a good idea to take your conversation to the General Discussion forum. Please, this topic is about coins.

Christian

 

Sorry


However, you are wrong with my interest in German History.

I am fascinated with both the Ancient Germanic Tribes and their battles with Rome, and from ~1910 to 1947/1948

 

Ah, that last year is pretty much where I start. My collection, as far as German coins are concerned, focuses on pieces from my country, the Federal Republic of Germany, founded in 1949. If you or anybody else collect/s coins from "other Germanies" so to say, fine with me of course.

As for what periods of German/European history Americans (I am not referring to anybody in particular here) tend to be interested in, well, there is a reason why the History Channel is or was jokingly called the Hitler Channel, and recent parts of this topic remind me of that. Yes, when we show coins here, knowing about the background is helpful and can be important. But such info should complement the numismatic discussion in my opinion. Sometimes it's hard to draw a line here.

Christian

 

I do agree with you about adding some background / historical information with the coin. I do forget to add a little history with the coins I post. Also, I am a German and I have been living in the US since 1961, and I think the History Channel is a joke.

 

SOOO0000oooo...,, How many coins were melted in the bombing of Dresden? A bunch I suspect. But since there wasn't a mint active in Dresden, or at least not since 1872, would be very difficult to make conclusions as have been made about coins destroyed in the SF earthquake of 1906.

 

went a bit notgeld crazy.....





i've been wanting one with the dog and "foxy lady" (i think that's a lady?) for quite a while.

 

The foxxy lady coin is great, don't recall having seen that one before, Notgeld you say??

 

yeah, its money that was put out by cities at the end and just after world war i when the national goverment could cover their needs.

 

Guess it is safe to call her a woman.

http://www.cointalk.com/t86455/#post781177

Christian

 

ah, that's an interesting story...thanks for (re) posting that christian!:yes:

 

never seen better !

 

did you sell these on Ebay ?

 

A very interesting medal, but is it German? Commemorates a peace between Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I and Louis XIV and dated 1629 (I think, although there appears to be an extra "I" in there MDCIXXIX), and an apparent chronogram on the obverse with way too many letters to be a date. Very interesting and lovely piece. Any idea where it was struck?