Really not saying its real or not but What kind of force would it take to elongate the metal? I think not from a bench vise.
exactly. cheaper prices, higher grades. NGC is right for me. now, com up with a tune for that, and you have yourself a commercial.
Old Scam I believe there was an article in Coin World back in the early 1960's. What happens is someone makes an impression of the coin in a piece of metal and then put the die over the coin just off center and then hammers the metal several times. That is why the back is almost gone and the coin is in an oval shape. Back then the hobby was growing very fast. Con-artists were altering 1944-D cents into 1914-D cents and selling them at swap meets. There were a lot of altered 1937-D buffalo nickels. I could tells some great stories about things I saw and a few of the times I was ripped off by dealers at coin shows. But that is for another time. I still love coins. Take care:smile
Back in the fifties and sixties one of the big things seemed to be using the technique to create "1943 copper cents" by fisrt pounding the brass plate onto a steel cent, and then onto a 1942 cent to create what looked like a 1943 cent struck in copper on a previously struck 1942 cent. There were several of them that showed up in the error listings in Numismatic Scrapbook back then. the effect can also be seen on some of the Scott restrike CSA half dollars. He sruck those pieces on 1861-O halves that had had the reverse planed off with ht ecoin face down on a brass plate. The striking caused the plate to become a "false die" from the obverse being struck into it. If the coin was not placed on the plate oriented correctly, the "false die" would create a secondary raised image on the obverse.
Coming in on this thread real late but what a waste of money sending this coin in for slabbing. Screams struck through a fake obverse die. This is actually a poor example of this. I have seen much better examples that include both dies and the coin maintaining its proper diameter. All I can say is WOW!
Thanks for the great explanation Conder! Its great to get some good info on the forum, from people who know and the others who are experts and have an opinion.
I'm wishing you all the best. I think we have heard a lot of opinions on how one of these could be made. We know that if it were made, you and everyone who put there two cents in have no clue how. It is fun to guess, and some of those were pretty educational. I hope the best. As for me, I would have done the same as you, submitted it. Worst case is that it is a genuine forgery and some of those are worth more than the actual die errors. Its a win-win.