Pre-colonial silver? Ancient silver? Any advice?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by coin0709, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Hi All. I'd really appreciate your help with these two silver coins. They are very small. Approximately the size and weight of the 3 Cent silver US coins. I'm thinking pre-colonial Spanish? Thanks so much in advance.
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  3. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Both are very fake.
     
  4. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    How do you know the first one is fake? The second looks too perfectly round and symmetrical right? Is that how you can easily discern it is fake? Thanks.
     
  5. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    The first looks wrong to me..

    Plus, a professional Numismatist said it was fake...

    Pretty condemning IMO


    The other has the wrong fabric, look, and, most importantly, is the wrong metal color!

    It should be bronze...
     
  6. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Yeah, I respect Ardatirion's opinion greatly. I have very little doubt they are fake, but was looking for a little explanation thats all.
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Looking at the second one:

    The 'reverse' looks like a button. And far too round.

    The other, I'll trust Ardy
     
  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    That's not really sufficient reason. It's ALWAYS best to try to see why someone thinks it's fake. That's how you learn!

    The obvious problem here is that the coin is "silver" on one side, and copper on the other. Unless this is a genuine Spanish colonial coin fused to another, I see no other logical explanation.
     
  9. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    I meant it this way:

    It looks wrong due to the problem you mentioned


    And this is support to the first statement:


    Plus, a professional Numismatist said it was fake...



    Sorry about the miscommunication.
     
  10. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    No worries, I knew what you meant. :) I just want to make sure everyone learns why. I was hoping someone else would chime in with the specifics.
     
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