My first Morgan

Much better pics. At the minimum you've got a softly-struck no-nonsense (I just had to get that pun in there, lol) technical MS64.

 

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I have no clue on the grade BUT, that is a REAL nice 1st Morgan you have there, Congrats!

 

Thanks fellas...she certainly is a beauty. I may get her slabbed in the future, but right now I have a neat little casing that the coin sits in.:thumb:

 

Nice Morgan I give it a solid MS-63 maybe 64 the coin has plenty of luster and one must always remember Morgans were bagged in $1000.00 bags that said 1000 ounces of silver rubbing against each other there's going to be scratches and marks. Nice find!

 

I would like to hear morgandude's opinion as well based on the new pictures...

 

AU-55, details, I see definite wear, and the luster is WAY too weak to be untouched, along with the white color. ( Pardon me please if you think I'm acting like a know it all, which is not my goal. It's just my opinion.) A REAL MS coin shouldn't have that flashy look that the coin has. Instead, it should have FROSTY surfaces, with a "shine" that is mingled with graininess. Also, the coin should have full luster to attain a Gem grade. This has luster that is impaired in several areas, significantly enough that it grades AU. Morgans and other silver dollars may display "wear" on the high points, but this is from contact with other dollars in a bag, causing SHINY wear, not the dullish color that circulation worn coins display. Still, congrats.

 

I thought frosty was more of a term for proof coins, though I am not an expert of Morgans. I personally think it's higher than AU-55, but thanks for the input. Another question:
Doesn't the term "details" imply an issue with the coin, such as improperly cleaned, damaged, etc? What do you see that would indicate a "details" grade?

 

I would agree with the AU details, after looking at the newest set of pictures. There is definitely light wear in the hair, cap, and on the reverse--eagle's breast and wing tips (lighting shows slight rub, as opposed to weak strike). More concerning to me is the abrasive look of the fields, particularly on the reverse, leading me to believe that it was cleaned in the past. So, had it not been cleaned, it would have been an AU 55-58 coin, but someone cleaned it, trying for the MS look. It is a details coin.

 

Not really seeing evidence of cleaning in-hand, but being the newbie I am I will defer to you guys on this one. Maybe I'll send it in sometime soon just to be sure. Just for kicks, here's one more photo of the reverse.

 

Here is one of my toned Morgans--this one is a MS 64 in a PCGS slab. Note that the fields are smooth, and not pitted. This one is definitely a weak strike for sure, but there is no evidence of hairline wear or rub. Look closely at your OP coin and this one, and the fields, particularly on the reverse, where yours shows some pitting that is not bag marks.

 

I have also noticed that if it isn't one of morgandudes Morgan dollars morgandude will automatically have everything negative to say about it.

 

Funny, although he may be right.

 

Nah, I say nasty things to my Morgan Dollars all the time. I tend to be choosy about eye appeal in that series.

 

Guys, lets stay on topic. We all have personal opinions about coins...and are free to express them. But, personal attacks are not allowed here.

 

non_cents, you have a very nice Morgan for sure.

I'm inclined to side with morgandude - even if he yells at his coins!

 

Well, I have to yell at my coins. Otherwise, would I be a good parent? I demand that they do their chores, make sure that they do their homework, and be home by 11 PM on Saturday night.

 

All you'll be sure of if you do that is the grade at which the TPG is willing to let the coin trade at in its marketplace. All you're going to get is the TPG's "market grade" on an attractive plastic package.

 

Gross weight - 942.873 ounces; Net weight - 773.44 ounces pure silver.

Chris

 

I feel that Morgans are graded much more leniently than other series, maybe by 2-3 points. Am I right? Just curious.

 

I am in that school of thought but find it is impossible for one to change a trend backed by millions of dollars in grades now. IMO more than half of the Morgans that are now graded in the low to mid MS grades should of been in the AU grades from the beginning.