1927 Double Struck Penny

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Lorenzian, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. quarter-back

    quarter-back Active Member

    I took a close look at the details of the lettering and it appears that the two impressions were made from the same die (or a coin from the same die was used to make the negative). Look carefully at the "T" in LIBERTY. It appears that both impressions have the same die chip on the left side of the stem about halfway up. Also there appears to be a slight thinning on the inner edge of the "9" just to the right of the apex. If the same die made both impressions, it might argue against a vise job. Alternatively, the same coin could have been used to make the negative for the vise job.

    BTW, the OP joined in 2011 so this is not just a sign-up and bail. One of his earlier posts was of a quadruple struck quarter. He's one lucky guy.
     
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  3. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    If this were the case, we still have two more coins to look at. :dead-horse:
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Its ether a good photo scam or One for Tpg. Fred W coin had 1 that was site or catalog with one MS-60R 1927 wheat cent.
    This was a copy made from photos No disrespect inteeded!!!!.
     
  5. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    definitely looks like a squeeze job
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    This is PMD from a "false die" double striking.

    Normal coin coin is placed on a hard surface and a brass plate put on top. Hit hard. This creates an incuse image in the brass plate. Shift the plate on the coin. Hit hard. Since the brass is "soft" it receives a second incuse impression from the cent, but since the first "strike" workhardened the brass it acts as a die and created a raised image on the coin but it is soft enough to not flatten the original obv image on the coin. This results in the original image and the fainter raised offset image on the obverse. Since the coin was placed on a hard surface that COULDN'T deform to take on the image of the coin, the reverse was simply flattened by the two blows.
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Wow. Then they actually "hubbed" a brass die from the coin and restruck the coin with it. Amazing.
     
  8. quarter-back

    quarter-back Active Member

    I'll buy that, especially as it nicely explains the flattened reverse. It goes to show how much there is to learn. Two questions, though. First, how does your method account for the apparent die clash, and second, why does the fainter image have be the second strike? I would think the more recent strike would be stronger since it flattens the previous raised elements. This should be especially true for elements such the "WE TRU" where the fainter image extends beyond the rim but the letters do not show as dents in the rim.
     
  9. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I have never seen a home made D D O
    Make date look this real. Photo cut edited well or the real thing. I am No Expert .[​IMG]

    The shade of copper is seamless just looks real.
    My2c
     
  10. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    As several others have stated, this coin shows a fake second strike. The obverse face was struck by a crude counterfeit die while the reverse face rested against a hard flat surface.
     
  11. Lorenzian

    Lorenzian Member

    More pictures with different lighting 14 MB.
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  12. Lorenzian

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  14. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the extra pictures, although I agree with Mr. Diamond that it is not a legit double strike.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  15. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    On the first of these new pic's . I am seeing an upside down t and a v.... both are pressed into the obverse. Does anyone else see this. The T is above the date and upside down, and the V is on Lincoln himself. Both letters are rather large and pressed into the coin?
     
  16. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

  17. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I guess this 1 is like Big Foot really do not know till bagged + in our case Graded.
    Homemade PMD???Mike 90% sure I would agree, like that worth anything.Mike has all the bases covered on this 1
    :eek:but I am still waiting to see 1 like this in a Ngc or Pcgs holder if this is a real 1
    I seen one happen here before a graded coin shown as Raw then the Detailed W"______ "
    VF-20 VG-10 Holder photo gets posted.

     
  18. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    BIGFOOT IS STILL OUT THERE:eek: I'm staying in tonight.
     
  19. Lorenzian

    Lorenzian Member

    Its going to be sent off.
     
  20. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 Nothing

    So this coin has a bad case of PMS... (Post Strike Syndrome) lol.
     
  21. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    Good luck, and let us know when you get it back.
     
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