1794 large cent. What variety???

Ruling this out as a 1799 candidate is quite easy without even looking at the reverse. Look at the HWH (Highest wave if hair). It is left of the upright of the R and a fair distance from it. Both obverses of 1799 are under the middle of the R.

Slight variations in the lettering, spacing and shape are common until the use of a complete reverse HUB at which point minor differences in the stems, berries and other finishing touches made to the dies are used for attribution.

 

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It's hard to confirm an attribution of 1798 S-174 with this cent, but it appears to be consistent at those attribution points I can find. It appears to be an earlier die state than the comparable Cents I am using which have a sharp clash from the head at the fraction if I'm correct with the S-174.

I think S-174 is correct after reading Breen's comments. The 'damage' below the ribbon is consistent with clash marks on the S-174 which was reground twice to remove clash marks so this could even be a later die state after a grinding has removed clashes left of the fraction.

 

I haven't tried to do anything with the 1794 but I think if you blow up the image and look below the cap I think the ends of the hair locks are still visible. You would have to be careful of the corrosion but I think a comparison of the hair locks might narrow it down to a few varieties.

 

how many of the varieties of draped bust large cents have a neck area like this coin does? see photos.

 

This is an example of a lettered edge Large Cent. The "edge" I am referring to is not on the Obverse or reverse extremities Like LIBERTY, the date, The Legend or the fraction. It is the side of the coin which usually has the inscription, "ONE HUNDRED FOR A DOLLAR" followed by one leaf as shown. This edge inscription is one reason I hate the tombs used by TPGs. They are trying, but I prefer the copper.

This cannot normally be seen when in a 2x2 or plastic tomb.

 

The only thing I see is three scratches in the shape of an asterisk below the chin in front of the neck. Is that what you are talking about?

 

Nothing about the neck area jumps out at me as unusual.

 

not the scratches. here is another photo showing what i am talking about.

 

another photo.

 

I still can't see anything, but that is a place where clash marks are often seen on a variety of varieties.

 

the neck and throat area of the coin is larger and it buldges out. it is different than the average neck and throat area on most draped bust large cents. see the photo of the 1801 large cent (normal neck and throat area) and compare it to the photo of the no date large cents neck and throat area. the no date cent has a more square shaped neck and throat area than the average draped bust cent.

 

That is not likely to be a mint produced condition. It is almost certainly a post mint result of damage from an impact to the copper which spreads far too easily. Copper was often stacked and sometimes the result is surprising.

 

this 1794 large cent has what looks like some pieces of metal in the surfaces, (see photos) both on the obverse and on the reverse. i have seen something similar on other 1794 large cents. however, the pieces of metal were in different places on those coins than they are on this coin. i could not find any that look like this coin. this coin has a thick planchet with a lettered edge.

 

It is almost impossible to see anything from a photo taken through a 2x2 with glare. Offhand, I'm not sure why this is called a 1794 when it could just as easily be a 1795 S-75. Of course it is LIKELY that there is more to see than the picture permits.

 

1798 large cent

this 1798 large cent has a reverse that looks different, (see photos) the E in ONE looks shorter on the bottom and the letters OF are worn away. which seems odd because the rest of the reverse is pretty clear. the photo of the reverse is attached.

 

S-184

 

yes, there is more that can be seen on this coin. i just noticed that this coin looks like it has the spilt pole feature, it looks like there is the spilt pole die crack that connects the pole to the rim, S-66 of 1794. it is difficult to see this in the photos but is does look that way. however, the letters in the word liberty don't seem to have quite the same spacing as on the S-66. on the other hand, the letters in liberty do seem to have the same spacing as S-48 of 1794.

 

Another 1794 large cent.

i think that this is another 1794 large cent but i am not sure, the date is not clear on this coin.

 

You are right. This is the easiest for me to recognize because of the "horseshoe" look of the highest curl which is unique to Sheldon Obverse 19. It is paired with two common reverses and two very rare reverses. Unfortunately, like many such Obverse 19s, the reverse is too far gone to identify.

 

1794 large cent

these are scans of this coin, i don't know if these photos are clear enough to tell what variety this coin might be.