I need help for a friend who got scam by a coin shop

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by biged239, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. biged239

    biged239 Member

    I agree with and earlier post that said (He could say the coins are not what she got), and depending on the receipt I want be able to dispute this. If this turns out to be (he said , she said). She has nothing and looses. The receipt is the key and I want even come close to it for two weeks.
     
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  3. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    A True Friend!!

    Biged, I'm certain I speak for many on this site in stating that you've truly been a friend, doing Yeomans duty. Your efforts have definitely been beyond the call of duty, and with admirable patience. I commend you, and would welcome you as an assistant at any time.

    I perform pro bono efforts as an ombudsman for similarly deficient/naive/uninformed local residents. Often those needing assistance are elderly not wanting to admit their limitations, delving into situations beyond their control, not understanding the ramifications of their actions.

    Although I act in a "victims" behalf, I must inform them of my understanding, and have them sign an agreement of the written understanding, permission for representation. I will occasionally contact the individual who has been represented as violating my "associates" due rights. I will identify myself as an Ombudsman, with the associate present to verbally provide acknowledgement/permission for my representation, having the associate identify themselves, provide only name and permission for my intercession. I will state my understanding, and beliefs for due reconciliation, asking for cooperation or a counter. I always try to maintain an atmosphere of respect and acknowledgement of possible misunderstanding. If there isn't a "meeting of minds", the communications will be politely terminated.

    A secondary subsequent similar call to the Attorney Generals office may result in the "perpetrator" being contacted. The Attorney Generals office may request a formal filing, where a form will be sent to the associate for their filing of a request for action consideration. If desired, I often will assist in completing the document to be filed as a "complaint". The associate is notified that my efforts have been completed.

    These steps often result in a satisfactory outcome, regardless of whether anything further is accomplished, as many just want someone to listen, possibly advise, and maybe minimally intercede.

    I suspect that this situation maybe likewise. JMHO

    Thanks for your patience and sharing.
    :thumb:
     
  4. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Biged, yes thanks for sharing. I agree totally you are trying to do the right thing and what happened to your wife's friend was not ethical. It occurs to me that my previous posts about "you snooze you lose" and "education" may have been misinterpreted as negative.

    I never meant to come off as condescending or offensive. I was only trying to help by providing a kind of snappy phrase you could use on her to incite her to action.

    You see, from the beginning of the thread I put myself in the underdog's shoes. To me, getting rooked for $6000 would be devastating. I have two young kids and am looking to buy the 'right' home. I invest what I can; usually most after my tax refund ;) My girlfriend trusts me in these decisions, though she is still dubious about it. I didn't want her to see $500 went to a single auction recently so my Dad took the cash and I used his card. I expect that package this week, and I work all week, so she may intercept it anyway and see the receipt (or read this :eek: ) and I'll be sunk anyway :eek: (I invested quite a bit recently myself. At least for me. Somewhere around $1500 over the last couple months has definitely been the most for me in such a short period of time.) So a loss of $6k, and having to hide it from my family? Pretty sure they'd notice things missing around the house, like the tv, furniture, and a vehicle or two:(

    That was my mistake. :)

    If you read some of my previous posts, you will see I believe strongly in a person being able to ask not just me, but any respectable dealer or collector, the value of their items and be given the truth about it. And vice versa. I always tell a person what it's "worth" show examples of a range for what they could expect to "get" followed by my "offer". Most people either accept my offer or take my advice to get another "counter offer" ....... Then they call me back. :)

    I also believe that any respectable dealer would have a buy back option at least within a certain timeframe in same "holder" (rolls in this case), etc, etc.

    Good luck and i still hope for the best outcome possible. Please do keep us updated! And thanks again for sharing! :thumb:
     
  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Why don't you guys and gals set-up a protest in front of his store, if he doesn't refund the difference he owes her ! nothing he can do about a protest, that's on the side-walk, that the city owns !! Good luck ED, you a good friend !!!!! :thumb:
     
  6. biged239

    biged239 Member

    imrich
    Biged, I'm certain I speak for many on this site in stating that you've truly been a friend, doing Yeomans duty. Your efforts have definitely been beyond the call of duty, and with admirable patience. I commend you, and would welcome you as an assistant at any time.

    silentnviolent
    Biged, yes thanks for sharing. I agree totally you are trying to do the right thing and what happened to your wife's friend was not ethical.


    Thank you both for these kind words.

    I was reading on another post that because these are words on a screen, without any sound effects or ways to pick up a verbal sign of what people are saying. We tend to jump at responses in a defensive way. I am learning that short statements can sometimes be misread, and the person making the statement may not intend what is being understood.
    I have learned from this forum that there is lots of good people. And all are trying to help. So I thank all of you for your education and guidance.
    Biged


     
  7. westcoasting

    westcoasting Active Member

    Well, sorry to hear that, but, at least you can finally move on from this. The reason why I agreed she get a free consult from a lawyer was to hear a legal opinion of what her chances were of recovering the amount she grossly overpaid.
    It's good to know what kind of legal footing there is so that one can pursue it OR move on and not waste any more time fretting over it.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Toffer, right? I went looking for that thread not too long ago. I think the mods lasered it......
     
  9. cooltrex

    cooltrex Member

    Wow what a rip off... I hope she gets her $ back...
     
  10. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    Hard to feel sorry for any woman who would marry a guy named Big Ed. Big Dave, Wild Bill, those are respectable nick-names. But Big Ed? Com'on!!
     
  11. Pi man

    Pi man Well-Known Member

    She's not married to Big Ed, they're old friends.
     
  12. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    Riiiiiiight, that's what they all say until caught with their hands in the half-dollar jar!
     
  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    You ain't right!

    :rolleyes::too-funny:
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Why don't you new comers, start your own blog, and stay out of this one ! Were all friends here, and we don't need your small talk, with your small minds ! :dead-horse:
     
  15. Pi man

    Pi man Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, but who exactly are the new comers?
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    just look at the last couple of posts, I'd say who they are, but it wouldn't matter anyways, moles are all over ! a mole is someone who likes to cause trouble, I have to start my day now, just sticking up for the good people on this site, that tried to help a friend out in need :goofer:
     
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