Antoninus Pius Gold Aureus Cos III? Help!

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  1. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Hi All,
    I'd really appreciate your help with identifying this coin. I cannot seem to find this exact variety anywhere online (I do not have a paperback guide yet). There are multiple varieties similar to this one, but most are COS IIII. thanks in advance.
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Very curious location of the holes. Usually two holes means a coin was used as an amulet in India or Central Asia, and if Roman gold I would wonder if it may be an Indian contemporary imitation.

    However, the location of those holes are weird. usually they are at 9 and 3 to either the obverse or reverse, whichever side they were wishing to display. With this one at 12 and 6, I wonder what purpose these holes were serving?
     
  4. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting. For what reason was such threading made? To wear on clothes? For jewelry? I had only really studied the differences between western and eastern practices of piercings made for use as an amulet. I have to admit Eastern practices work much better than western ones.
     
  6. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    This configuration is more effective when multiple pieces are hung on a string. You see it a lot with Islamic silver that was used in wedding ornamentation.
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I could see that. I never paid attention to the orientation of the holes in islamic silver, but have seen lots as large as 500 pieces of holes Turkish akces. Seems a whole lot of islamic silver was pierce in antiquity.
     
  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    coin0709 Its Marcus Aurelius :)
     
  9. willieboyd2

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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Good eye, Randy-G
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Lol, I bet Bill is looking at this thread and thinking.......what the ?
     
  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I had to check a couple of times to make sure you guys didn't i.d. it lol. I find that fact that it holes interesting though and enjoyed the posts.
     
  13. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Wow, thanks guys! RIC-20 it is. Its unfortunate its been holed. Would you grade it as VF Damaged? I've done some searching online for recent auctions of this variety, and found a few in tact coins. Is there an annual guide that I could consult to find the FMV for this variety?
     
  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The holes don't bother me in the least, considering the coin is in otherwise great condition. It might bother someone else, and I could understand that, but I simply accept it as a coin that was once jewelry - not necessarily a damaged coin, but a coin of a different category.
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    No annual guides for ancients. Best you can do is find a recent sale. The duel holes will have a pretty severe crimp in the price though.
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Agreed, but this coin should garner a lot of bids and a high selling price.
     
  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    High is relative. I bet you not more than half a recent sale of a non-holed specimen. Yes, for most of us its still an expensive coin, i just didn't want the op to expect the same price as a pristine example.
     
  18. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    What would you guesstimate to be 'HIGH'?
     
  19. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Thanks Medoraman. I'm planning to list this specimen on Ebay in a week or less. I hope you're wrong. :) Thanks for your input everyone!
     
  20. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Here are a couple eBay listings that might help you ballpark your holed gold. These are gold ex jewelry pieces. The Nero is slabbed, and it's a gold Nero, I'd say that's the high side of what you might get.

    The Valentinian is still stuck in an pendant, that's probably low side.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-Roman-Gold-Coin-in-14kt-Gold-Pendant-Valentinian-I-A-D-364-375-/121070093499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c305704bb

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-Roman-Empire-Nero-54-68-Salus-Gold-Coin-NGC-EX-Jewelry-No-Reserve-/230958319609?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c63047f9

    The truth is though you never know until you list it yourself.
     
  21. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Still a nice coin....:thumb:
     
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