ANCIENTS: Tiberius as (ex Kentucky)

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Again this year we drove to visit my mother-in-law in Indiana passing by a coin shop in Kentucky that last year produced one of my Nemausis croc coins so I felt the need to return. They had very few new coins but I got one that I either missed last year or that walked in to the shop since I was there. It is an as of Tiberius with the rudder on globe reverse. There are several minor types and dates of these. This one is a bit obscured by the green patina but clear enough to be a nice coin. The legends seem to be more deeply cut that the portrait. Looking at others on acsearch, I see that perfect centering is not common on these so the reverse condition is not all that bad.

    A test to see if you know me: This coin commonly comes in Tribunica Potestas 37 (as here) and 38. I would much prefer to have found a 38. Why would I consider this choice to be significant. I will tell you that 95% of collectors would not care but a few, like me, would like the 38 to be bold and on flan. Who has this very trivial answer?

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very interesting coin. I actually think the green patina makes the coin. As to your question, I haven't a clue.
     
  4. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I'll just hazard a guess.

    You like the engraving style better for #38?
     
  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Without giving it away, if I am correct that is, because of the 8?
     
  6. Rudi Smits

    Rudi Smits Member

    Because in 35AD he had XXXVII TP, and in 36AD XXXVIIII ! Somehow he skipped a year... There is no XXXVIII...
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great coin Doug ... I'm lovin' the rudder on globe reverse (it's a beauty!!)


    Oh, and I'm betting that Rudi is correct with his answer
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Rudi is right that there is no XXXVIII but there is a 38 as I strongly suspect Randy knows. How can there not be XXXVIII but still be a 38? This is probably something your Latin teacher didn't teach.
     
  9. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I learned Latin from an epigraphist, so I managed to pick up on a lot of these quirks. Just don't ask me to translate Livy. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Rudi Smits

    Rudi Smits Member

    I won ? A sixpack ? An aureus ? Or just congrats (which i will appreciate too...:D)
     
  11. dougsmit

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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    No win; no prize. 'No XXXVIII' is not right unless accompanied by the answer to what was done in its place.
     
  13. Rudi Smits

    Rudi Smits Member

    a XXXVII1/2 ?
     
  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector


    It's still just 38
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Fantastic coin Doug. I sure would have bought it as well. I have never seen one of these types.
     
  16. Rudi Smits

    Rudi Smits Member

    his retirement on Capraea that year ?
     
  17. dougsmit

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  18. Rudi Smits

    Rudi Smits Member

    the numismall coin says XXXIIX (38) instead of XXXVIII...
     
  19. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    I always thought Kentucky was one of our most beautiful States. I like the horse country around Lexington very much.
     
  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Congratulations!!! We all know about subtractive Roman numerals for 4 and 9 but Latin class never mentioned that sometimes the Romans would use IIX for 8. This use on a coin is super rare but all of these year 38 versions of this type used XXXIIX so this is rare in one sense but common in the other. Of the rudder coins XXXVI is the scarce one but, again, so few people try to get the set so they all sell according to grade not rarity.
     
  21. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yours didn't mention that? Funny, mine covered that it can go either way. I guess I didn't really think much about it.
     
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