I think I got swindled

I'm not sure yet, but I'm lneaning toward a neutral with a message like "seller confused a business strike with a proof". Although they are just going to say "it is certified proof".

I try not to leave negative feedback if the seller takes the return and gives me a refund with no problems.

 

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I'm not sure yet, but I'm lneaning toward a neutral with a message like "seller confused a business strike with a proof". Although they are just going to say "it is certified proof".

I try not to leave negative feedback if the seller takes the return and gives me a refund with no problems.

 

Seeing that you went against the seller's wishes, I don't think you should press your luck. I'm sure the first thing he will do is examine the slab very carefully.

Chris

PS. I hope he doesn't read these forums.

 

Wish you wouldda took a pic after you cracked it open to post here. I don't think the seller should get a neg or neutral fb. He was willing to take it back and asked you to leave it as is and not crack it open. tsk tsk. Not knowing where it came from here, I can easily give the benefit of doubt that the seller might have bought it as a basement slabbed PF66 just like you did, had the same disappointment, but could not conclude either way as you couldn't and chose to pass it on through eBay to the next guy. Now if all his coins are in these slabs that he is selling lets have a link to the seller without any bashing. That was a nice looking 1884 anyway.

 

Does the seller usually offer coins in such holders? If not, there is no reason to say anything (IMO), but if he does, the warning could be helpful to less experienced buyers.

 

Makes you think, though, doesn't it? Makes you think what may be missing with all of these coins sealed up in plastic how many problems there are hidden.

This is exactly why i think fake slabs will be the real huge challenge in the future. People will be afraid to open a slab, yet the slab will hide the fact its a fake.

Just my prediction.

 

Not always...

Sorry - once you cracked it you should own it regardless of what you found and no matter how good a job you did putting it back together. The seller offered a valid return and yet you disregarded it for curiousity sake.

 

Almost all of his coins are in the same holders and I'm sure that they do the slabbing. This is the only reason that I would say anything at all. If they were just a random seller, I wouldn't leave any feedback at all, but I would send a message to the seller to let them know that the coin was improperly graded.

 

I don't understand.

First of all, you said that when you cracked it out came an AU-58? Did it have a grading cert on it when it came out? You're now certain of the grade?

Second and most importantly, He offered a return instead of a crackout. You opted for both??? This is highly unethical to return the coin after you opened it.

and even MORE highly unethical that you re-seal it and return it as if it was never opened.

I thought you to have better scruples than this, but I guess we now know differently.

 

I disagree. The coin is mislabled and should not be in that slab. I don't feel bad getting one over on a scam artist. Why do you think they didn't want me to crack it? Do you think they were worried about replacing a fifty cent slab, or do you think that they were more concerned that they would be exposed for purposely mislabeling and misrepresenting coins? My guess is that it had nothing to do with the slab.

 

2 wrongs don't make a right

 

There's no justifying it. You crossed the line and IMHO your behavior is worse than that of the seller.

The seller's motivations and knowledge are in doubt.

You have removed all doubt as to yours and should be NARUed for it.

 

Sorry we are just going to have to disagree. I, and a lot of people on this forum, already knew that self-slabbers mis-label and misrepresent coins.

 

I'm just find it hard to believe that you can defend a seller like this Mike. Now I will agree that I should have just sent it back, but what is the harm of cracking it and putting it back into a slab. I put it in a new coinworld slab and properly sealed it. It is exactly the same as when I got it, no harm, no fowl. I really wanted to keep it even if it wasn't a proof, but once I was able to see the breaks in luster, I had to send it back. If you knew who the seller was, I'm sure you would see things a little different.

 

Kirk, I am NOT defending anyone, especially NOT the seller.

The harm of cracking it and re-sealing it is that you weren't allowed to do it and you did. Not only did you, but then you bragged about doing it on the internet as if you were justified.

What you did was wrong, period. You were offered a remedy that left you with no loss, exactly as you were before the transaction. That wasn't enough? You crossed the line and you can't un-do that fact.

I disagree. I don't think that I would ever see it differently. I personally don't care if it were Satan himself selling them, you are wrong and that's the only thing that I have stated.

 

Kirk, you didn't.

Yes you did, and against the sellers wishes. Sad for me to say, but you 'bought' this one dear fellow.......

 

Alright, alright, enough guilt, I'll just keep it.

 

Much better.........

 

Mike buys coins from Satan? :devil:

 

Probably all PF67RD.