Old holders, slabs. Care to share?

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  1. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    I personally like old holders, even though some (like this one) came and went quickly. I picked this up in my LCS a few years ago and I like the early S Morgans especially. In hand this coin looks like a 64 today, has nice luster, strong strike, and has developed some attractive edge toning in the holder.

    Here is what Condor says about this company, located in a thread from 2017:

    They were active in 1986 and seem to have disappeared around 1988. Most of the pieces I have seen are registered to Whittman-Burke which isn't a good sign as that could potentially indicate a self slabber. I haven't tried the phone number on the back of the slab lately. Last time I did it went to the Eagle Creek Ranch. As far as the grades assigned, who knows. That was 1986, the only grading service using all 11 MS grades was PCGS, in fact there wasn't even a published grading standard for all of them just 60, 63, 65, 67, and 70. MS grades could still be pretty much anything you wanted them to be and one companies standards really couldn't be compared to that of another. (This is still true today otherwise coins graded at one firm would grade the same at another. Grading is subjective and there is no such thing as a "correct" grade.)

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  3. kaosleeroy108

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  4. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Since I personally bought this around 1973, I guess it might qualify as an "old holder", although nothing TPG about it of course. I imagine these Whitman cases are very common.
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  6. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    This really isn't old, but it's the modern obsession with labels (I bought a label and a coin fell out) and I was shooting pics, so ...

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  7. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    I’m not a huge Peace Dollar fan but that is beautiful coin!
     
  8. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    I like this 1936 Commemorative Cleveland Half Dollar in the 1984 red flip wallet from Dominion Financial Services with ANACS cert, but I wonder if it's PVC. Anyhew, kind of fun, I picked it up mostly for the packaging, but also nice coin / good price. Note the "encapsulation" is what appears to be a Capital holder on the bottom half of the flip with "Dominion" metal tape on each side of same to prevent tampering. - oldanacs1.JPG
     
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  9. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    The flips that ANACS returned coins in are PVC. At one time they put the coin in a PE (Poly ethylene) sleeve to keep the PVC flip from touching the coin. 40 years later, no problems.
     
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  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Many years ago Bowers and Merena used PVC holders for auction coins. They told you to change the holder once you received the coin but some folks failed to do that.
     
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  11. psuman08

    psuman08 Active Member

    I have a Dominion Financial Services wallet / ANACS certificate similar to this one. Mine does not have the tape on the Capital holder (or was removed). Very interesting, I have not seen many of these and have never noticed the metal tape before.
     
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  12. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    Up next I have a Type 7 ANACS Photo Certificate, 1881S MS 63/63 (I love the dual grading!).

    This one is housed in a Capitol Plastics holder that nicely displays the coin and the certificate. These holders are hard to find...I could use a few more!

    This site takes you to a thorough reference for the various types of ANACS photo certificates: https://www.oldslabholders.com/post/anacs_slab_generations

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  13. INDE1977

    INDE1977 Well-Known Member

    My only PCI holders. 368F8F24-2863-461B-8202-958E1B8F42BC.jpeg 1C5AD598-157E-469D-908C-7FA2BED930C7.jpeg
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think that it is said that the early ANA soap box holders were prefixed by the shows they were graded.
    Here is a CD
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  16. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Never heard anything like that.

    Capt H has said the XA series was first.

    EX and RE are at the end of ANA ownership, known to be used by both ANA and Amos.

    I have never seen anything about the sequence of the rest of the pairs.
     
  17. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

  18. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Anybody remember Teletrade phone auctions?

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  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    https://docs.google.com/presentatio...nAA51ErVhLf8/edit#slide=id.g13ceb62592e_1_672


    Produced from Feb 1989 - Jun 1990. It is ANACS’ 11th Generation of certification following the 10 generations of Photo Certificates. This holder is the 1st generation slab style holder issued by the ANA prior to being purchased by Amos Publishing and being re-labeled ANACS. It is said that it was issued alongside the ANACS Type 10 photo certificate for a short time. It has also been said that both services could be had at additional cost, however I have yet to see one with both slab and matching certificate.


    Rarity

    Uncommon


    Note: Alphanumeric cert numbers start with CD, EX, JK, KP, LO, LP, MJ, NJ, RD, RE, TR, TS, WD, WF, WR, XA (supposedly show submissions). Additionally the odd and rare A-certs. No one seems to know the story behind these. I’ve seen only 3 A00005, A00009 & A00058. (See appendix fig. 2)
     
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  20. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    If you are going to quote John's work at me, I helped him with a tiny bit of it, on the boards. In fact I finally imaged something we didn't think existed this week and sent it on to him.
     
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  21. Randy Abercrombie

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    I can offer this one up from Independent Grading Assoc. It has been folded and unfolded so many times in my storage box that I really need to just dispose of the old plyo-holder.
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