Should I grant an eBay refund for a coin received 21 days ago?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Mar 21, 2013.

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  1. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    The CBD and his crackout schemes, are the reason I wish we had a block seller list.
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Richie, do you believe everything a stranger tells ya?
     
  4. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Do not worry too much. You will win this case. First he got a lot of time to return that coin. But over 20 days I think that was abused on your part.
     
  5. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Of course not...but to be honest I'm not sure why you are asking. But, then again...I'm recovering from the flu and am not as sharp as I normally am right now.
     
  6. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I doubt it...eBay nearly always sides with the buyer. He will almost certainly get to keep the coin and get all his money back. That way...eBay is assured the buyer will use eBay again.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I believe half of what I see and none of what I hear........
     
  8. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Fair enough. To be honest...I don't know what to believe when it comes to online forums. So, I do my best to only look at the information provided and give my advice based on that alone. I try not to make judgements or assumptions...but as I'm sure you have seen, I do tend to fail at that at times.
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Not at all. I trust your judgement in many cases. I know and respect you. The point is, do I trust an e-bay seller that I don't have a relationship with?
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    As for the half cent: I cracked out a problem coin (cleaned) and sold it as a problem coin (rim ticks). I don't think it's cleaned and saw no hairlines. Don't approve? I understand and that's fine.
     
  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    eBay said on the phone that worst case scenario I'll get the coin back and the refund will go to the buyer from my account. So he won't be getting both.
     
  12. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    The crackout schemes are even more of a reason the OP should have refunded in the first place. The crackout schemes may have never even came to surface if the OP would have done the right thing in the first place. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Honesty is the best policy no matter what.
     
  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I'm not sure if that is accurate. I just looked at that auction...under sellers notes you state: "Choice color and lots of nice detail is present as well as plenty of luster. A couple tiny rim ticks are mentioned for accuracy." It's not in your bold typed or colorful ad. Had I not known to look for that I would never have seen it. Nowhere did you mention that a TPG refused to grade it or that it is a "problem coin." After seeing a couple of your auctions...I honestly would suggest that you rethink some of your business practices.
     
  14. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    let's see and wait..My guess ( SELLER ) He will win and keep the money.
    the BUYERHe can keep the coin due of 21 days holding the item. He did not return the coin on 14 days period allowable time.
    that's all.
     
  15. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    You know what eBay told me to do in one of those courtesy seller phone calls? "Highlight the best things in the title and use tons of key words. Put flaws and condition info in the 'Item condition' section... which I did. But maybe I should stop listening to the evil empire...
     
  16. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    may I ask if this 1821 half is the same as the one your selling?


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1817-1818-1820-19-1821-1824-Bust-Half-Dollars-Type-Silver-ANACS-Certified-/330885784115?nma=true&si=JOox%252F%252BrVbMDPPkKzb0MGinUlYQ8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1821-Capped...39?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item35c567bd6b
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Best case scenario? Stick to collecting. Keeps you out of the doghouse more often than not........
     
  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    She's a beauty isn't she, detective? BTW, someone messaged me that you're a known shill bidder. Is that true?
     
  19. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I agree that highlighting the best things about your item is very important. It helps sell an item. But in all honestly you left out critical details...you subtly mentioned that the coin has rim nicks. But, the damage the coin has is significant enough that a TPG refused to grade it. The way the ad was structured made it appear that these rim dings were "tiny" which leads one to believe the coin is problem free when it is clearly not.

    You are doing the same thing with that 1821 half that was posted. The coin was slabbed as damaged by a reputable TPG and you have cracked it out and are selling it as problem free. To be honest, when I first started reading this thread I believe you were a good seller who ran into a bad situation...I'm starting to reshape my opinion based on what I have seen.
     
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  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I guarantee you the seller will get his money back at minimum.
     
  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Unsubscribing........
     
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