1898 over date?

Hello Everyone,
I'm new to the community but in due time I'm sure you'll get to know me well. I absolutely love coins and have been collecting various denominations off and on since i'm a little kid. Mostly my focus lately is driven by trying to find mint errors, don't know why, just feels normal so I'll go with it.
I recently came across an 1898 Indian Head Cent which appears to have and over date and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to give their opinion? What I noticed is sweeping motions inside of 898 consistent with an underlying date going north east. Thank You for your time and opinions! Chad

 

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I'm sure someone much smarter than me will come along, but aren't over-dates typically on the last digit, like, 42 over a 41, type thing? And being that would've been 8 years since the '8' would've become a '9', doesn't it make more sense that it's a cud, or something else, rather than an over-date?

Or am I, once again, completely off base?

 

Double Date, sorry...all i'm saying is it looks like something else is present and has a consistent motion, maybe just tooling marks. The large anomaly in the bottom of the 9 I thought could possibly be the bottom nub of another nine. Thank you for your help!

 

Not necessarily, the 1894 Indian is a good example where there is an overdate of all numerals.

 

Good call. Thanks.

 

Small die chips and gouges were common place with the Indian cent series. Especially in certain numbers in the date like 9's, 6's and 5's. I suspect that is what you have. And welcome to CT Chad, that looks to be a nice example. Some mint red in the protected areas.

 

I know it was really reaching with the 1898. I studied this coin for awhile and just thought that the whole picture looked a little to coincidental to be separate problems, guess not...lol.. I do have other double date coins which are much harder, one for sale on ebay and I got rid of an 1894 not too long ago. Anyways, Thanks for your time guys. Have a Beautiful Day!

 

You may wish to note the difference between an overdate and simple repunching of digits.

 

1st I am Not a Expert!!! But can see in your photosa R.P.Dnoted in the 1st Cherry pickers guide as a Fs # 1c 011.651995 value$ noted Ef 15.00but MS- 63 75.00The price have changed I am sure from 1995 to today.

 

Thank You very much!... I will look into that more.. as you can see I am a junior member but trying harder every day to become more precise with my findings. Brain storming with others I find to work well. I also forgot to mention that on the reverse there is a dot, not sure if there's any significants to this.

 

Jello,

Unfortunately, FS401 (old 011.65) shows a misplaced date in the denticles below the last 8, which is something not present on the OP's specimen.

 

I feel it is just die damage. Until 1907, the whole date ( 4 numerals) was punched into the die by a logo ( gang) punch, so it is hard to get one numeral alone, or one more to a direction that the other 3 would have also gone. Sometimes if it is the first (1) or last numeral, it can be at an angle and hard to distinguish the others. That doesn't seem to be the case here. The 'stuff' in the '9' is too strong , not to have other repunching remains present. MPD and overdates are different as mentioned from RPD.

IMO, Jim