Our lincoln set

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by dustywallen, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Those do not even look like the same coin as your OP. There is nothing I can point at to say fake, but they are getting very good at counterfeiting them. VF scratched (and maybe corroded) should go for no more than $800.
     
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  3. dustywallen

    dustywallen Member

    Thanks. Yes the lighting will play tricks that's for sure. Plus just have an iphone for photos. We gave $800 for it originally.


    Dusty
     
  4. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    I dont see any obvious solder work. Everything looks to be in the right spots as well. The only issues I have is the chip in the S, the halo around the S and date and the toning difference on the reverse right behind the date and S. I am not a coin expert so obviously these are just my scenarios and my thoughts of what could happen.

    1. The coin was cleaned with some type of brushing action around the date and mintmark and the toning on the reverse, right behind the date/S, was dirt removed at some point. (This is probably the case)
    OR
    2. The issue with soldering something this small would be solder flow. It would be almost impossible to keep solder from accumulating in the open areas of the S, which would have to be removed but there would be obvious work done. A chip in the S would fill this area, leaving a wider area for a surface to be soldered and eliminate the need to clean. Solder only on the upper half of the S would be strong enough to bond the S to the coin. The heat would be applied to the backside of the coin, bonding the S to the coin. The flame would burn off any toning in that area and the date and mintmark itself would act like a heat sink, drawing heat from the coin, causing a halo effect around the heat sinks.

    Dusty, Im not saying your coin is fake, just pointing out scenarios that could be happening. The only way to make sure is to certify the coin.
     
  5. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    If you could take a close up of the top section of the E in ONE on the reverse, at a 8 o'clock position, it would be nice.
     
  6. dustywallen

    dustywallen Member

    Well the whole date appears to have the "halo" around it. It is from the old cleaning that someone has done. I'm not sure as to what they used but "obviously" it has been cleaned. Now what part are you wanting me to photo? The E in the reverse in "one" this correct?


    Dusty
     
  7. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Again. Im not saying your coin is fake. I just pointed out what happens with alloys when heat is applied. Any thin parts on a flat surface, which as lettering and numbers in this case, will act like a heat sink, just like a radiator. Heat will travel evenly through any flat, even surface. When it comes to a spot where it cant dissipate heat other than to the atmosphere, like on the thin numbers and letters in this case, those spots will become hotter. Thats why water cooled engines dissipate heat quicker then air cooled engines.

    And yes, a pic of the top horizontal part of the E, at the tip. Right where the toning is different from the rest of the coin.
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Great pictures! Looks authentic to me and you already nailed the old cleaning. It's still a nice F-VF coin....if it slabs you might sqeeze a VF20 out of it. $800 was a little high considering the old cleaning, $600-700 sounds more reasonable. Definately get it into a slab! Even if it's in a genuine holder at least it will be ready to sell when that day comes for you.
     
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