What kind of premium can I expect?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Mar 5, 2013.

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  1. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I noticed it but it doesn't look rotated enough to add premiums for, at least to me anyway.
     
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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    More reasonable than the $1000s someone else valued it at.
     
  4. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member


    You're wrong again, except for the open forum part. By that, I'll comment as I see fit as long as it PERTAINS TO THE QUESTION and is helpful. You should really abide by your own comments and should have just passed this thread since you're obviously not a toned coin collector.........which begs the question, why read the thread except to troll?

    Anyway, you're wrong and here is why. The OP asked for a toned premium knowing that such a thing existed. It DOES exist whether or not it exists in your collection. Just because you or others are not willing to pay a premium doesn't mean many other people would not. Given that fact, your comments were of absolutely NO help what-so-ever. The SIMPLE fact the OP knows that such a premium exists would also know toning is subjective and thus his question.

    BTW, grading is also subjective and is in no way absolute, so you can jump right off that high horse too. Toning is nothing BUT subjective, which again, in case you didn't understand it the first time, is why the OP asked his question.
     
  5. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member


    Nope. It's only worth 5 cents because grading is subjective and may people don't collect TPG coins. All hobo nickels are only worth 5 cents also. 1913 V nickel, 1909-S VDB, and that latest Million dollar auctioned coins are all just face value. While we're at it, why are we collecting at all? This whole thing is stupid and every coin ever made is only worth face value. :rolleyes:

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  6. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    You clearly don't know what trolling is but I feel my response is still valid to the topic and question.

    No I'm not, there is no way to price toning on coins since toning is not part of the actual grade of a coin. So I'll stand corrected by giving my opinion on the matter.

    Actually he asked if the toning would add any premium so I chimed in to say that to some collectors, it does not. So that is a valid reponse to his question.

    And I never said people don't pay premiums.

    Perhaps to you but I feel I brought forth valuable information to the OP since if they plan to sell coins, they will encounter people who don't or won't pay high premiums for toned coins.

    You can't say that for certain, that's just making assumptions.

    Very true but the condition of coins can be actually graded and is not entirely subjective to the person buying the coin.

    To each their own, but no reason to get personal about it.
     
  7. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic

    I dont know what premiums it would bring, all I can say is that I wouldnt mind paying 20-25 dollars over bid.
     
  8. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    [FONT=&amp]Actually, sir, there was nothing wrong with his initial post since it was a reminder of the reality that not all collectors are willing to pay toning premiums (even though I am sure the OP already well knows this).

    If you wish, we could take this one step further and consider buyers who search out coins with a valid toning premium, but claim to be collectors unwilling to pay it. Basically, this is another reality that, along with countless other examples of nonsense, sellers and dealers must regularly contend with. My point is that it takes all kinds, so to condemn someone for making a valid point and contributing to the conversation is unfair. While we understand that a toning premium can exist, for whatever reason, not everyone will agree.[/FONT]
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Rodeo and Irish, take a break~ Do not post further on this thread! posts removed! I will close it if this hissy-fit continues.

    Jim
     
  10. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Actually, opinions from both sides of the coin(no pun intended) should be welcomed so the OP has two things to consider regarding the toning.

    I suppose since I don't submit coins to TPGs, that by your way of thinking I should not post my opinions on threads relating to slabbed coins, pros or cons?

    Not so.
     
  11. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Thank you, at least someone else understands what I was trying to bring forth with this reality that not everyone is willing to spend premiums on toned coins and it's all subjective. If we exclude the people who would add zero or very little premium to such coins, then the OP and anyone else (since this forum is open and a vast knowledge base public on the internet) might have the false pretense that all toned coins are more valuable if only those who want to throw in their "suggested" value are allowed to post, which is not the case.
     
  12. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    My last post was being made after you already posted this.

    I'm cool though, I'm just wondering why I was being brow beated for basically providing an answer on a forum. Ughh!
     
  13. Erik

    Erik Dumb Noob

    My confidential algebraic formula I use tells me I would pay approximately 31% premium on this coin. Thanks and good luck.
     
  14. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    For me to pay a premium for the tone on a coin, it better have some monster color, i.e. rainbow, and pattern. The OP's Buffalo, no. That Morgan that Morgandude picked up from GBroke, yes.
     
  15. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    No it doesn't and neither do the TPG's price guides.
     
  16. bhaugh

    bhaugh AKA - 1872Hokie

    it isn't a bad looking coin. There should definately be a premium there, but it really depends on who the coin is exposed to when trying to guess how much premium. I'd be conservative and say 8-10% over what the untoned counterpart could fetch if the right buyers see it and are interested.
     
  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Why not? is not the greysheet a compilation of ALL sales? Just like the greysheet averages out the sales prices for high and low end 65's, I would imagine it averages out between the good color, white, and unattractive pieces.

    That was what I was saying in MY post guys, these coins are the MOST LIKELY to come with color of any buffalos, so this date IN PARTICULAR I would believe has a color component built into the grey sheet pricing.

    Therefor, my guess for the coin would be a very slight bump for attractiveness, but much less than a typical buffalo would get. The only chance really for a premium is because its a one year type, and maybe some are putting toned type sets together. They are COMMON for that date though. I own a few, (don't remember how many), and every one I own is BU and looks just like this.
     
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