1969-D Kennedy DDR? and Help.

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  1. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Hi all. I am pretty sure I have found my first real doubled die. This is a 1969-D Kennedy half dollar. Both S's in states show splits on the serifs. I think I can see some other doubling in places also. First, does this look like one to you guys? Second, the CONECA master listings show 15 different DDR's. Is there anywhere online I can go and see pics to look for attributes so I will know which one it is? Third, is there any value to these DDR's? It should be XF-AU condition. Thanks in advance for any help.
     

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  3. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Tough to tell for me. I am seeing die deterioration on the coin, but I think I also might be seeing splits. Not quite sure...
     
  4. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Definitely a DDR Coin! Congrats!
     
  5. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Sorry. I failed to respond to all of your questions.

    I have a copy of the Kennedy Half Dollar Book, An Attribution and Pricing Guide by Dr. James Wiles of CONECA. Other than this guide, I do not know of any other source for attributing all the different Kennedy Varieties.

    Looking at the 69-D's, it appears as if you have found DDR-002 which comes in four different stages.

    1969-D DDR-002-03.jpg

    Pricing is relative to grade:

    1969-D DDR-002-02.jpg

    Personally, I would be tickled to have found "your" coin regardless of price.
     
  6. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the help. Oh, and I am very happy. Just wanted to know price just to know. I'm not gonna throw it on Ebay or anything. From reading the description on CONECA's master listings, that was the one I was leaning toward. The "G" is straight. The obverse appears to be the MDO. North/South die scratches obv and rev, check. However, unless I have the EDS it can't be it. No sign of the rim cud at the "I" in Liberty. I am puzzled. I did take some more pics. I'll post them.
     

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  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Post Pics of the "I" Please. The "rim cud" is not the obvious.
     
  8. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    The 50c 69D DDR-002, has some nice doubling on the rays...I don’t see it in your photos. You really need better photos to determine what die this is.

    Larry Nienaber
     
  9. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    I couldn't pick out any doubling on the rays either. I will post a pic of the I though soon. I have been busy and don't have my microscope with me.
     
  10. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Here is a pic of the "I" folks. Like I said before, it appears to show doubling. This along with some others led me to believe it is the Master Doubled Obverse. Thanks again to all for the help.
     

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  11. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Did the pic of the I help with attribution?
     
  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    No LOL!

    Care must be taken when coupling specific Obv designs with Rev Designs since we know that not everything is as it should be as many times coins are produced using the wrong Obv and Rev Dies. Think Type B washingtons and Wide AM Lincolns.
    Since Business strike dies often got used with proof dies, nothing is set in concrete with regard to attributing a specific reverse variety because of the obverse as it's onvious that "die pairs" were not always constant.

    I would suggest forwarding the coin to CONECA, since your photographs are just not the revealing, for accurate attribution on which DDR-002 it might be but I'm fairly confident that it is a DDR-002.
     
  13. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all of your help. Hopefully I will be able to return the favor one day soon.
     
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