I've bought from Frank, but I don't like his lay out for his auctions. I would like to be kept informed as to when they open. Anyone know the name?
Ive purchased coins from both & have been satisfied. Decent prices for what I bought too. Hopefully we get more info as it gets closer.
One observation about the ancient collectors on this forum. You guys are great about sharing the knowledge! Thanks, it is much appreciated. It also makes any hobby more fun when you can be social about it and learn from others with more experience in an area. HIstory has always been a big part of what I enjoy about coin collecting. Even the listings for many ancients are steeped in history. I particularly enjoy the listings from this seller. He does a good job of weaving the appeal of the history behind ancient collecting into his listings. Just by reading the listing, I learned some things I did not previously know. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTONINUS-PIUS-MARCUS-AURELIUS-as-CAESAR-140AD-Ancient-Silver-Roman-COin-Rare-/320992460558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abca43f0e
Most of it is from wikipedia & he's known to be a joke. He's super expensive and has youtube videos that could make SNL laugh themselves to death. Steer clear of him!
Yeah, I could see right thru the salesmanship. Anyone who's offering a "71% discount" off a "listed price" is pretty easy to read thru. (listed in the "leading numismatic Catalog!") Although it's pulled from that reliable source "Wikipedia", and it is certainly also part of his salesmanship, the history part is still pretty cool though.
A number of sellers do that, and I appreciate it, even if it's lifted from wikipedia. It saves my lazy butt a step.
Coin collectors have a reputation a lot like used car salesmen, ambulance chasing lawyers and politicians: Crooks! I have little problem with this stereotype in some circles but, for the most part, ancient dealers and collectors are expected to hold to a higher level of integrity. We have our exceptions that would sell their grandma her own dentures but most are true gentlemen (occasionally there is a lady). Part of this is that there is just too much for any one of us to know and being part of a sharing, caring community benefits us all. I think that is a part of my distaste for slabbed coins that will attract to the hobby people who are not personally driven to know about the coins beyond the grade and price/value.
I've never seen the first stereotype, as people realize that museums can't afford to exhibit everything, and private collectors mean more survive in the market. Infact, the opposite is what I find, with people glad that someone, especially a youth, will spend his money to protect these artifacts. I mostly agree with the above, but having slabs would also makes it easier for someone to make the jump into ancient coins. Had I not found this group at the old forum, I wouldn't have jumped into collecting ancient coins. However, slabs would have made it easier, as I am a US type collector (I rather like slabs for that set, as I haven't learned grading well... to much time looking up ancients!). I never really said 'Thanks' enough... Doug, Anoob, Bing, Dionysos, Eng, DVC, Chrsmat and Steve (yes, you too Steve!) Thanks! :hug: :hail::hail:
Well said. That is one of the major things that chased me away from US coins. No one wanted to know about coins anymore, it was all about, "if I resubmit this, do you think I could get a one point higher grade and make $2500 off of a sucker who doesn't know how to grade himself?" I know I might be lowish on estimates I give, but that is what I wish to pay because I seriously do not care what my coins are "worth". I wish to own them, study them, discuss them, and the price tag is just something in the way of that. I try to pay lower than Vcoin retail simply because I wish to own MORE, not because I am trying to make a buck off of them.
I almost never pay the asking price, but I do understand that dealers are not in the business in order to give their products away. Many survive solely on the income derived from selling coins. I'm glad that we have so many dealers in order to keep them all honest (not that they're not honest, but competition helps keep prices lower), and to give us a variety of places to buy our coins. If you don't like the way one person conducts business we have a choice and can move to another dealer. Having said all that, I also understand that MOST dealers are prepared to offer reasonable discounts if asked. The price has some leeway built into it. The key is you have to ask. You have nothing to loose by asking and possibly something to gain. I'm no dealer and I rarely sell any of my coins. But when I do, I try to be the most responsible seller as I've said before. I would rather trade coins with one of you guys than to sell one, but I'm not sure how to go about trading unless someone asks specifically about a coin. I have traded with some of you. Anoob and Doug to be specific. I would like to see some kind of Trade site set up where one could place the coins you are willing to trade and you could shop around to see what others have for trade. I'm not savoy enough to know how to go about such and endeavor.
I would agree. I would not mind trading as much. Truth be told, I do have "too many" of certain coins I would be open to trading with, I just cannot stand selling. I've told Doug Smith if he ever wants to trade his Vahran family portrait coin, I would be all ears. Kidarite gold stater in exchange Doug?
Just as a follow up: went back to the LCS today, and based on the info provided by members of this forum, offered them $35 & $65 for coin 1 & 2 respectively. They gladly accepted and thanked me for doing the "Leg Work". Really it was you all who did most of the leg work, or at least provided a rudder steer to my research, so thanks.
RB you git a good deal IMHO especially on the RR. I'll gladly take it off your hands and give you a $10 profit! :yes:
Thanks Bing. I can't start selling my ancients just yet! But give it another couple hundred years...after all that coin's over 2000 years old.