chances of carter dying?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tdogchristy90, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Read it again, it states no such thing. That's just the popular interpretation but the legislation isn't perfectly clear on the matter. If Reagan gets a coin after Ford and the series ended then, no president will have be honored out of sequence. ("In sequence" does not necessarily mean the same thing as "consecutive." The numbers 1, 2, 4 are in sequence even though I skipped 3.)

    I'll concede that most people interpret it the way you do, but that's not a 100% guarantee the Mint will also do so. Until the time comes any such declaration is just speculation and opinion.
     
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  3. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    In my experience the closer one is to death the less macabre it seems to contemplate the inevitable. I can tell you that the loved ones I've known who were near death, they dreaded dying more than the actual death, especially since they were in pain and were actually looking forward to the final release, and had faith that they were headed for a better place.

    But you probably think I'm "sick" or "evil" for even discussing such a thing, so whatever, live in denial if you so choose. I'm sure if you never contemplate or discuss death you'll just live forever.
     
  4. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    Denial..yeah, that would be me. My husband died un my arms, as I waited and watched. Yep, that's denial.

    Nuts.
     
  5. AlexN2coins2004

    AlexN2coins2004 ASEsInMYClassifiedAD

    that's just uncalled for and a butthead move to even post...
     
  6. C Jay

    C Jay Member

    You got my curiousity up. Here's the law...........
    ‘‘(E) LIMITATION IN SERIES TO DECEASED PRESIDENTS.— No coin issued under this subsection may bear the image of a living former or current President, or of any deceased former President during the 2-year period following the date of the death of that President. ‘‘(3) ISSUANCE OF COINS COMMEMORATING PRESIDENTS.— ‘‘(A) ORDER OF ISSUANCE.—The coins issued under this subsection commemorating Presidents of the United States shall be issued in the order of the period of service of each President, beginning with President George Washington.

    Link: http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/mint_programs/$1coin/2009AttachA.pdf
     
  7. Darchangel

    Darchangel Active Member

    -ignoring all the riffraff about the intentions or interpretation of the OP's question- I'll cut to CJay's post on the "law". I have to deal with reading rules and regs almost every day on my job. Ironically today was a day that had me questioning words, phrases, context and interpretation. That said, if I read Part A on Order of Issuance just as it is, that would lead me to think that it's absolutely possible to have a Reagan coin and skip Carter if he has not passed as of yet. Seems pretty straight forward to me... Thoughts?
     
  8. C Jay

    C Jay Member

    I would say that you are probably correct and it does allow to skip Carter. The primary eliminating factor is the 2 years post mortum requirement, which also sets the end of the series. I personally think it would be ashamed not to honor Carter, and hope that congress will do so at the appropiate time.
     
  9. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    I value any person's life over my esoteric hobbies.
     
  10. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I didn't check if Millard Fillmore was gone when I bought some of his dollars.

    Oh, my...

    :)
     
  11. windwalker

    windwalker Member

    I thought that there was a drop dead date when the series is supposed to end. I can't remember however if the date was effective 2017 or when. Anybody know?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Lucy it kind of depends on your point of view. And that point of view can vary greatly depending on if you are a loved one of the person, or the person himself. I understand both of those points of view because I have been in both positions. I went through the loved one position with my mother, so I understand. And my doctors told me I would told me I would not live another year. But, that year was up 5 years ago and here I am. So I understand that position too, still waiting, day by day.

    And to tell you the truth, it doesn't make any more difference to me than what the weather will be tomorrow. But I also realize it matters a whole lot more to my family.

    That's life.
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    All the more reason to live each day as if it were your last. Life is precious and fragile and one never really knows how much time they have left.......
     
  14. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    What a weird thread! Going from death pools to serious sentiments in a couple quick pages, but still no one touched on the real heart of the matter.... Zombies. And whether or not a zombie Carter would be allowed on said coin.
     
  15. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Cool, a thread that probably rates as most watched by the Secret Service, and zombie prepers alike. Good job guys!
    Guy
     
  16. chip

    chip Novice collector

    I think that longevity often runs in families, President Carters father died pretty young (58) while his mother lived until age 85. I think that he is taking more after his mother than his father.
     
  17. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Why do some of you want Jimmy Carter dead?
    When the Pres $ series ends, you'll have a complete set no matter who has or hasn't been put on a coin.
    Although a good reason is just to keep you all from getting a Reagan Dollar, but not the only one, I wish Jimmy Carter at least another 10 years.
     
  18. Atarian

    Atarian Well-Known Member

    An interesting thread. I don't really care for the presidential dollars and don't have any except for what comes in the proof sets, but I will buy a crate (or whatever the largest amount the mint will sell) when the EISENHOWER dollar comes out. Having said that and after reflecting on this thread I have realized three things:

    1. The 'golden dollars' are really hideous. There are some nice designs here and there, but overall - FAIL.
    2. Kasia - that's an awesome avatar
    3. I need some cold pizza, so signing off for now
     
  19. C Jay

    C Jay Member

    How long do you have to be "undead" to be on a coin, 2 years? If you come across some really cool rotters, how do you tell the difference between natural and artificial rotting. :)
     
  20. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Does it really matter? :)
     
  21. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Chances of all of us dying some day. 100%:rollling:

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