Cleaning a coin, what have I formed?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by The Beatles, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    I was recently given some no-date Buffalo Nickels. I kept trying to find a way to clean it just to see the dates (these are some pretty banged up coins, for those of you wondering). Well, all I did was sit the nickels in a little bit of vinegar to begin eating at the coins (it's working so far! :D). I went to look at the coins to see their progress, and noticed that the vinegar was turning a slightly blue color. I figure the acid is reacting to something in the composition of the nickels, but I am unsure what part would be creating this. So I have two questions to ask you:
    1. What is creating this bluish tint in the vinegar?
    2. What is this blueish color? I think it is a chemical compound, but want some expert input.
     
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  3. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    Here is the pic of what has been formed.
     

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  4. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Nickel(II) acetate (Ni(CH[SUB]3[/SUB]COO)[SUB]2[/SUB])is an inorganic compound of nickel and acetic acid (vinegar). This inorganic compound is usually found as the tetrahydrate. It is used for electroplating.

    Nickel salts are carcinogenic and irritate the skin.

    Wouldn't play around with that stuff if I were you.
     
  5. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    ...And just what did the coins look like after their bath?
     
  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, don't drink it or swim in it.

    Yes, soluble nickel salts are toxic. But you're dissolving scant milligrams of nickel when you do this. It's really nothing to panic about.
     
  7. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    Just got back from washing my hands for about five minutes. Thanks for telling me, I had my hands right in that stuff before I noticed it was bluish.
     
  8. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    I'll post pics when they are finished. I think it'll be around Sunday. Maybe Monday if I want to continue testing. I can tell one is a 1929, two are beginning to show dates, and one is still unreadable.
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Primarily copper acetate, nickels are 75% copper as I recall.
     
  10. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Whoops, I always forget that nickels really are not all nickel.
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    [QUOTE I noticed it was bluish.[/QUOTE]


    I have many friends that are bluish, but not orthodox.
     
  12. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Yep... Mostly Copper Acetate.
     
  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Actually you could just put a drop on the place where you want to bring out the date.
     
  14. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns



    :too-funny::too-funny::too-funny::too-funny:
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Date less coins are forever dateless. I picked up many as a young lad and cast them away without a thought. You folks would do well too to do the same. Dateless coins with resurrection Voodoo will never be collectible.......
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins


    I've a few of those too but you must insert a 'J'........:)



    :too-funny::too-funny::too-funny::too-funny:[/QUOTE]
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    [/QUOTE]

    Blujish???!!!
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Rotfl..........
     
  19. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Can that happen? Alone, nickel displaces hydrogen from acids, but copper doesn't. Acetic acid isn't much of an oxidizer or complexing agent. Is there something that lets the nickel bring the copper "along for the ride"? Does it somehow allow dissolved oxygen to attack?
     
  20. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    I'd trust the chemist Badthad :D
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Oh, I do -- I'm just begging for an explanation. :)
     
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