Coin Darkener - Sulfer idea

Ok, so im just doing a bit of research and some basic tests on ordinary memorial cents. I took some cleaned cents and some run or the mill circulated coppers and began to test.
I have some printer toner that i saved from a long time ago and i mixed some of it up with boiling water to make sure it dissolved. The Toner mix with a cleaned penny left in it for about 30 seconds then washed off in hot water left the coin almost the same but with a barely noticeable grey color, but it did darken it, other tests soaking the coins in the mix longer made the effect only slightly more present, nothing worth exploring further.

Iv read about other commercial toners like Deller's and a few other brands which are merely sulfer powder in petroleum, which is easily made with over the counter products, but what i wonder is, what is i leave out the petroleum alltogether and just add the sulfer to boiling water and then add the coins all at once, be it maybe less sulpfer than needed otherwise? Id expect it would work, wouldnt you?

Who thinks this Sulfer + Boiling water would work.

 

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I thinks coin doctor in training!

 

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what are you trying to do? Tone a coin? Darken a coin? if so why?

 

KoinJester, dont make asinine assumptions.
bkozak33, just Darken coins, ordinary crap cent from 60's and 70's, attempting to learn how so i can fix some of my wheats that got a bit damaged from cleaning, cant stand the oxidized flat orange color of some. They have almost returned to their former color, but some have remained odd looking. I couldnt care if they toned, just to give them some better color for when i finish and add them to my book.

 

Sounds like he's trying to darken cleaned coins, and I'm just guessing here, make the coins appear to not have been cleaned.

 

yes, but not in a bad way

 

Rust-Oleum or Naval Jelly. Kills two bird with one stone.

 

Not making assumptions .

1st you cleaned a coin to make its appearance better. That is considered doctoring

2nd your trying to cover up the cleaning. That too is doctoring!

Then someone will say : oh they are only lowly Wheaties. But the doctors don't start out on expensive coins, they start with the lowly cent.

 

dont know what it would do!

 

it seems like alot work for cheap wheaties. You can buy nice examples for relativley cheap

 

Cleaned to remove verdigris only. These are lowly wheats, worth barely nothing, and Doctoring is usually as term applied to someone intending to sell said coins, intending to conn a buyer, which i am not, this is my collection, and I want a non destructive method to make them more appealing to me, not some joe shmoe. I tried to conserve them and it got screwed up, my fault but my choice to "doctor" them if I choose. Im merely asking for constructive comments on this topic.

 

Let me quibble. Sulfur is spelled like this in the USA and sulphur in the UK. Sulfur is very insoluble in water, so it would be like putting talcum powder in there. A good source of sulfur compounds that might work for you would be egg yellows. You could dilute this with water and keep it (as long as you refrigerate it).

 

bkozak, iv collected these for years and its more a sentimental issue. I know i can go buy more, though its just these. im not a coin buyer, it doesnt feel the same as finding a coin, feels like im cheating, skipping a step in the discovery process. after the first hundred or so, I learned not to clean them, so i have a few hundred more that are as the day I snagged them.

 

Hm.. I've heard that a combination of Blue Ribbon and Uni Solvent can help bring out a patina on a coin, I don't know if would help if it's been cleaned.

 

I dont believe sulfur fumes that would darken a coin would be bonded to the coin. you may be able to color it, but it would maybe wipe off. It takes time to to get that aged color.

 

Kentucky, not sure if you saying I spelled it wrong though im aware of the spelling, as you quoted my post which has the correct spelling. Also thanks for the info that it may not dissolve. As for the egg yellow idea, as well as it may work, id rather not have to deal with food. Since otherwise im not receiving much help yet, ill just store them in a manila envelope, thanks

 

http://vimeo.com/38717742

 

It not a huge deal, as I said prior, most have regained most of their original color, originally a moderate flat brown and now a light brown.

 

Id assume this is the same as Deller's, though ill check later.

 

I've never used anything but acetone on coins, so I can't recommend that product - I just know it's out there.