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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by dmott88, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Unless the colors are over saturated, it looks too good to be NT. I've also never seen a N/T nickel with such bright colors in plastic. Also, there is splotches on one side, which looks like sulfur residue.

    Disclaimer....this is just my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right, I could be dead wrong, but until that coin resides in PCGS/NGC plastic without the A/T designation, I rest my case.
     
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  3. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Of course it is impossible to really figure-out the OP's coin since we only have photographs. You really have to see the coin in hand & then you need to know how its been stored & even then one can only provide an opinion at best. Here are some other toned coins (posted only for fun). They are all in normal slabs.
     

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  4. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    i spilled a little coffee on an ike i had sitting on my kitchen table and didnt wipe it off. i forgot it for 3-4 days and then dipped it in acetone to get the coffee off. in a few days it toned red, blue, and yellow. i was really suprised how reactive something as simple as coffee could be with a coin.
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  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

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    What does this mean???? :devil:
     
  6. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member


    [video=youtube;OQSNhk5ICTI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI[/video]
     
  7. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    it means you're very neat, well dressed, and absolutely LOVE Judy Garland. not that there is anything wrong with that, of course!
     
  8. COINnoisseur

    COINnoisseur Professional Amateur

    what is AT and NT?
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Oh Lordy Lordy...
     
  10. dmott88

    dmott88 Coin Slinger

    Well, that was an interesting turn of events for this thread... haha
     
  11. George8789

    George8789 Leaving CoinTalk for good

    AT is artificially toned like what Detecto does and NT is naturally toned like what happens when you leave a morgan dollar in a hankerchief for 100 years.
     
  12. COINnoisseur

    COINnoisseur Professional Amateur

  13. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    artificial toning: [​IMG]
    natural toning: [​IMG]
     
  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

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    "Looks like sulfur residue" huh? Flowers of, liver of, or....? Have we been experimenting?




    Wow... you almost had me there. Well, at least until the end, and with all due respect, Tim, you have no case. A coin residing in TPG plastic means that the toning is (or was at the time of slabbing) market acceptable and is not a definitive AT/NT answer. Have you already forgotten about the Morgan you swore is NT but was bagged? Do you really think the "one time consideration" they offered you had anything to do with your claims of the coin having been in an album? They are likely humoring you since your claim will have nothing to do with if the coin grades out or not. You have submitted once in your life, got lucky on one coin and blew the rest, so what does this really tell you. I find it interesting that mere months ago you were starting threads about how much you disliked slabs, but now act as if you're the go-to guy on everything TPG, other than when it is your coin and you want to know if it has been cleaned, will slab, or even its grade range.

    You are more than welcome to your opinion, but what I cannot understand is why the same guy who claims to want to devote his entire life to protecting newbies will knowingly and intentionally post uninformed assumptions worded as if it is experienced fact. Has it ever crossed your mind that some newbie could assume you actually know what you're talking about? Is it not possible that you could cause more damage than Littleton, The Franklin Mint, or whoever is your target du jour? Newbie is not a bad word, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being in that stage of the game. I've been involved in this long before you were a glimmer in your momma's eye, yet I still and always will consider myself an eternal newbie. There is ALWAYS more to learn, so maybe you should consider taking the same approach.

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  15. George8789

    George8789 Leaving CoinTalk for good

    BooksB4Coins I consider you one of the best posters on this site. I hope one day to be as knowledgable as you.
     
  16. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I think it's stunning and my interpretation of the images is that it is real toning.
     
  17. billpocz

    billpocz Amazed by Peace Dollars

    dmott88,

    Whether it is AT, NT or BS, it is a beautiful specimen!

    Bill
     
  18. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Tell ya what Mr.Coins....instead of your normal verbose of being a nihilist in regards to my intellect, why don't you kindly provide your reasoning as to why you believe this coin is naturally toned?

    I, on the other hand, have came to a different conclusion, at 1st I thought a chemical might of played the role of toning. However this coin appears....how would I put it....baked?

    I think the coin was electrically heated. As the heat dispersed through the metal, from inside to outside, it cooled at different rates, producing the bullseye. I'm thinking there might of been something on the electrode used to heat it, as it may of caused the splotchy areas.
     
  19. dmott88

    dmott88 Coin Slinger

    Seems like a lot of trouble...

    More probable would be the fact that this set was purchased in 1992 from this old man out of a catalog. He threw it in his display case under a light next to a window. 11 years later the coin looks like it does today. Most likely from the chemicals in the plastic and cardboard and the constant change and flux in temperature. Even more so because I know when I was there snow was higher outside the window than the display case. Seems far easier than all that mumbo jumbo you stated.
     
  20. dmott88

    dmott88 Coin Slinger

    Thanks!
     
  21. cpb614

    cpb614 Member

    Great Pick-up...I just recently started learning about toned pieces.....I have a few books of toned Jefferson nickels, and Roosevelt dimes, and they are all toned differently. No way to really tell how this coin obtained it's toning, but either way, it is super cool to see....

    Thanks for showing us your find...

    cpb614
     
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