U.S. Virgin Islands DDO? Variety?

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  1. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    I was recently looking at my U.S. Virgin Islands quarters, and I came across something I find odd.
    I don't know if it is doubling, or what. It is risen up just like the leaf next to it.
    These three pictures are three separate coins.
    In the first picture, you can tell there is nothing extra there.
    The second picture, the oddness is visible.
    The third, you can clearly see it. I have about five quarters that look exactly like the first picture, and, well, the other two pictures are the two quarters that caught my attention.
    What is this?
     

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  3. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    Here's a better picture of the third picture. In this one you can see doubling in the P, L, and U in "E PLURIBUS UNUM."
    Sorry it's not the best picture. From my view it doesn't look like MD.
     

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  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I don't have a virgin islands quarter in front of me, but to be honest, it almost looks like part of the design. Do you have another example that does not show the anomaly?
     
  5. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    I thought the exact same thing, but here's a picture of another that doesn't show it:
     

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  6. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    I have five U.S. Virgin Islands quarters that do not show this.
     
  7. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Could be isolated machine doubling. Maybe someone else will chime in and give their opinion.
     
  8. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    Does anyone know of a person on CoinTalk that is a specialist with quarters? Would anyone mind looking at their U.S. Virgin Islands quarter and see if it has this oddity? So far, all the pictures I've found haven't been large enough to examine this particular area.
     
  9. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Well, I’m no expert, but the strange thing is the shift/doubling appears to be in opposite directions on the flower pedal and the lettering. From the pic there appears to be separation at the tops of the letters. Can’t do it now, but I’ll check some rolls (if they’re opened) later. Is it a P or D mint?
     
  10. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    Thanks! I never paid attention to the shift in direction, but you're right. It seems different. I have one from the Philly mint and one from the Denver mint.
     
  11. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Looks like generally the same direction to me...that would fit with the MD hypothesis (or a doubled die if it was a class IV).
     
  12. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I might have to lean towards DD on this one. There is a similar DD on the Wyoming quarter that is on the reverse right under the cowboy's hand on the saddle. It's an isolated part that is doubled like this Virgin Islands example. And the Cherrypicker's guide recognizes the Wyoming DD as such, several types of DD for this date in fact.
     
  13. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    I see what you're saying, and I agree, but to an extent. The part of the flower seems to be going in a bottom-right direction, whereas the letters look to be going the same way, but almost shifted to the top-right.
     
  14. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    i always need help.... however my young eyes have detected a couple spots that might be MD? i have noticed that alot of coins i find with MD have it almost on the whole side. do you see it anywhere else.? here is what i see and you can see the bottom of the leaf in reference too.
    U.S.VirginIslands#2[1].jpg
     
  15. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    The letters are definitely MD. Not sure about the doubling on the flower. It could be a doubled die, but then again I am only familiar with lincoln cents...
     
  16. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    For what its worth, I fully agree with your Machine Doubling (ejection doubling) analysis.
     
  17. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    :smilethere is a DDO listed for this coin.I do not work for John Wexler.
    So there could be a DDR.but from your photo it looks machine doubling.but photo can hide things.Here the link to the DDO + to John will detail your coin for about $15.00. if turns out to be a DDR it may show up in coin world to.
    :yes:


    http://doubleddie.com/240522.html
     
  18. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    Ok, I will consider it. Don't really know what to do with it.
     
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