1964 U.S Nickel Rainbow Toning, Proof, Real or Fake?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by kdew73, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. kdew73

    kdew73 New Member

    I bought this coin on ebay, I am not sure if the is actually real or not. Its almost to good to be true. It is supposedly a proof nickel. The seller never said anything about the toning and it didnt looked toned in the sellers photo. This coin is almost perfect MS68 I would say. The rim of the coin is very sharp, almost sharp enough to cut something. On the edge of the coin there is a green color to it but only on half of the edge. (see pic) I thought that was very odd. I just would like to know if this coin is fake toned or fake all together? or if its real? and of course how much its worth. Thank you!
    64 rainbow toned face.jpg 64 rainbow toned side.jpg 64 rainbow toned back.jpg
     
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  3. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It's a proof Jefferson nickel. These can take on nice pastel colors as yours shows. They are not graded using MS designations, but rather with PR or PF (depending on who grades the coin) designations. If that is an image of you holding the coin then you should be aware that it should not be held so that the fingers are in contact with the obverse and reverse. This is especially true for proof coins as it is so easy to leave a fingerprint on the coin and sometimes those prints take a while to show themselves.
     
  4. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Less now that there's fingerprints on it
     
  5. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned


    The early 60's proof Jefferson nickels are notorious for lots of toning.
    However, I will say that the toning patterns and color on your coin are unlike any I have seen from other proofs of the same era. That doesn't mean it isn't natural, but I wouldn't bet on it.

    Here are some examples of common colors.

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  6. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Can someone please make a large sticky on the front page of this forum that says READ BEFORE HOLDING COINS :)

    nice coin btw
     
  7. frostyluster

    frostyluster Member

    edited Also, did anyone ever tell you to NOT TOUCH A :COIN'S OBV/REV?!?!:mad:
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  9. frostyluster

    frostyluster Member

    Except for the fact that a newbie ruined it.
     
  10. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Well, I hate to just repeat the last 8 posts, but that's a terrible way to handle proof coins. The toning would have been great, except now it's impaired.

    Bummer.
     
  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    It is a proof and the toning pattern is pretty common.

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  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Over time the prints are going to start showing. You can't put your fingers on proofs. Give it a bath in acetone and give it a fresh holder. Time will tell. Nice looking coin. Hope it stays that way.
     
  13. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned


    Pretty coin. I won't pretend it resembles the OP's though.
    Lately I have been seeing a large influx of toned 60's proofs from notorious doctors, all light pastels. They are getting very good at it.
     
  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Maybe his looks more like this:

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    This was raw straight from a proof set.
     
  15. kdew73

    kdew73 New Member

    Thanks for the information everyone! and These are not my pictures, I took these off of the ebay auction. The coin is in a case with NO finger prints! So they must have took the prints off. Now nobody said anything about its worth? anyone know how much this coin would go for? Thanks again!
     
  16. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Fair enough.

    Well, a value is hard to give. Generally, raw colorful Jefferson proofs will sell between $3-$20. It all depends if anyone is fighting over it and how good the images are in the ad.
     
  17. kdew73

    kdew73 New Member

    Yeah I guess that is true for everything on ebay! Haha. Thank you :)
     
  18. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    More often than not, you can't see fresh prints. They tend to manifest themselves over time and then it's too late. Rinse the coin with acetone ASAP or possibly see a big, nasty print someday.
     
  19. kdew73

    kdew73 New Member

    Ive never done that before. The acetone wont take off the rainbow colors? I was told to never try and clean a toned coin. Thanks for the information!
     
  20. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Here is what I have learned through experience.

    Usually toning will not be removed from a coin by being soaked in acetone.
    However, if the toning is present due to some sort of foreign substance on the coin, it will be removed.

    For example, I had a nice looking toned cent that needed an acetone swim due to some other debris on the coin. The toning was removed. That's because the toning was actually being caused by an oil or some other substance.
    If the toning is actually on the surface of the coin itself, it will not be removed.

    Now, "dipping" a coin will immediately remove real toning. Dipping is not done in acetone and actually removes surface layers from the coin.
     
  21. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    A rinse in acetone will simply remove extraneous oils and other crud from the surface of the coin, it will not (at least it should not) affect the metal and toning. Do not wipe the coin or rub it. Simply put it in some type of glass dish and swirl the acetone over the coin. There will be no hairlines imparted on the coin and it will not be considered to have been cleaned. Please also be aware that acetone is extremely volatile and flammable and use it only in a well-ventilated area free from all sparks, flames or other sources of ignition.
     
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