I just saw this coin on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1111-1117-C...6826728?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item416f19a868) and it was the first time I've seen a Chinese cast coin in a slab. Does anyone know how long ANACS has certified them, and how could they know if it was real or not.? Thanks for any responses!
i think that since china has become some kind of economic god people have become infatuated with the same coins you could get for almost nothing before and so i can see an economic reason for grading services to hitch a ride on this current trend.
I'm not sure where you're getting the "cast" from . It is a Chinese Cash coin . It looks to be authentic , not sure about the cert or the slab . But ANACS has never been good about updating their website for cert numbers or anything else . The seller is an upstanding member here and I have no doubts about them & therefore the coin they are selling .
The "cast" part was refering to their method of manufacture, which was cast, as opposed to hammering, milled, or struck. I have been collecting East Asian cast coins for a number of years and this is the first time I have seen them in a slab. I remember reading on the PCGS and NGC websites that they don't certify cast coins, probably because of the ease of faking them compared to struck coinage. I have some rare cast coins that I would have liked to have stabbed, but they are too big for ANACS. I don't doubt that the coins in the listing are real, they are relatively common cash coins.
Agree completely. Looks like an authentic iron cash coin. I have never seen them slabbed before either. Not bad for an iron issue. I hate the lack of info on the slab though, no emperor name, no disclosure its iron versus copper, no attribution, etc.
Ok , just wasnt sure that the wording was not being misconstrued. I should have clarified a bit more & was combining my response to multiples in the thread.I do definitely know the difference on methods of manufacture. I suppose that a lower level TPG that is looking for any type of revenue steam will certify most things now to pay the bills. If the coin was manufactured as a cast then there should be no issue of certifying it IMO.
Personally, I believe cast chinese coins are better candidates for certification than most other things being certified. I do not consider it, "certify most things now to pay the bills". It takes different skills to authenticate these, skills most western collectors do not have. I applaud them for certifying these for those collectors who wish to explore the longest running coinage series in world history. While I would prefer everyone to educate themselves and learn to authenticate their own coins, I know I am tilting at windmills at that one. I just wish ANACS would "do it better" and list reign, type of metal, denomination, attributions, etc. Chris
Apologies to the seller if he took offence. I was merely asking the question not stating the point........
