3 PURE SILVER Half Dollars COMMEMORATIVE - Help to Identify Them ! -

I was saying that the two you have are basically equal in rarity and price (sesqui and 1920 Pilgrim). There also was a 1921 Pilgrim which is more rare than the 1920 that you have.

So the Pan-Pac is number 1. Then the other two (sesqui and pilgrim are basically equals in similar grades - if you had a 1921 pilgrim it would be better).

But all of this depends on whether they are real and what grade they are which is determined by the fine details which we cannot see.

 

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Petro89: Thank you ! 10 points in the analisys, thanks !

 

What about that bulge by D in DOLLAR on the reverse?

 

Dang Chinese fake even the most common coins . They look all right individually , but together they have the same look , the toning is almost identical , so unless they were all cleaned at the same time then sat around together that would make me suspicious . The magnet test and the weight would help . But for their better fakes they are using 90% coin silver and these look to be top notch fakes , if fake . Hope I'm wrong .

 

Oops, yeah that's a ding. Didn't notice that until I magnified it. Good eye JW.

 

What about that bulge by D in DOLLAR on the reverse?

In Wich ONE ???

 

Barber

 

Yes, i dont like that Barber, thats why im not including it , i just dont feel called to check it further, maybe in a free time.

I have Posted SOME 2 GOLD Interesting Coins in Ancient and World Coins.
Once i obtained a Buffalo 1916 Double Die Error, so im familiar with some Old Coins. i found that one in PERU. i have access to a lot of unsearched coins at my work.

 

Is that a ding though?

It doesn't look like a ding to me. I think a ding would produce sharp lines, indicating a strike from..something. This bulge has a smooth, flowing hump that makes me think metal escaped it's cast and maybe pooled up or settled there.

These coins make me uncomfortable. And the bust. I've seen the gold coin, and there's a spot that makes me curious - but I know little about gold, even less about non-US gold coins, so I won't comment.

 

Ok seriously? Its an 1894-0 Barber half with a mintage over 2 million. It is an AG03...worth melt. It is not a fake. I see similar Barber halves with the same "dings" every time I go to the shop.

 

I am serious. With the high price of silver, coins that are only worth their melt value are being counterfeited and sold.


http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1929...ar-UNC-COIN-COPY-FREE-SHIPPING/654126107.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1936-US-washington-quarter-dollar/621514752.html


Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm suspicious of it and I would not buy it.

Edit: Yes these coins posted were done with a quick search and sold are sold as copies.

 

Yeah you are right and you can never know for sure without testing it with a magnet and weighing it etc. But it is very very unlikely that it is fake. I meant no offense, its just that the Barber is by far the least of the worries in this case.

 

And I agree with that too - I'm hyper-nervous about fakes so I may be biased.

When I found out how many fakes of Morgans & Peaces that are out there...I bought a scale and weighed every single one I owned :smile (All were good).

The identical toning these coins have makes me curious too - is it lighting from poor photos or is there more going on?

I don't want to beat up someone's coins or say they're all fakes. I WANT to be wrong. But what's the deal with the bulge?

 

I have been a huge Barber half nut for years, and I have seen that same feature on many many coins...all over the date and mintmark spectrum. I think these crummy pics accentuate it and make it worse than it is. The Barber half was the workhorse coin of the time period and thats why its so difficult to find nice mid-grade examples. These coins were beat to ****. 95+% of what you find out there are flat and polished and damaged. I could be wrong about this particular coin - I don't have it to test it, but the rim hits on slick (worn) Barbers often produce this result. Maybe it is because they are so thin (comapred to a circulated silver Kennedy for example). But I have seen and own many that have a very similar rim hit, and they are legit. I think the pics are just really bad, and I agree the coins are probably polished. I wouldn't pay more than silver value for any of them the way they look. I would be willing to bet the sesqui, the pilgrim and the barber are probably real, they are just really bad pics of cleaned/damaged coins. The pan-pac is probably a fake. None of them look right to me, especially that one.

 

Awesome!

I was hoping for a reply such as yours, thank you! This makes a lot of sense and I appreciate it.

 

Those edited counterfeit everythng, and you're right to be leery. Its just a common thing in well-worn coins in that series and some others from back then.

 

Sorry Doug

 

I would not even pay melt value for the four coins shown if all I had to go by were the OP images sorry not worth the risk.