High grade collection- FB & FBL?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by BigTee44, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Bought this set today, 36 coins including large cent coins, 1932-s Au55, ms66 1936 dime. What would you pay for this lot?

    Seen FB and FBL on some of the labels, what does that mean?
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  3. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Full bell lines on the Franklin Half
     
  4. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    How about the mercury?
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Merc= Full lines (bands)

    Franklin= Full Bell lines.

    I have to ask, if you don;'t know this, how could you establish a price?

    That is, without getting ripped off.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Hard to see the coins, why not make a list of them w/ grades & grading co's.
     
  7. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

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  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Mercury Dimes

    FB = Full Bands (see below)

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    Not Full Bands (see below)

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    Any breaks (for any reason) in the line that separates the center bands will preclude a FB designation.
     
  9. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Unless noted, coins are graded by ICG

    Large Cent
    1819 VF30 Large Date
    1855 PCGS VF35

    Nickels
    1954 SEGS PR68

    Dimes
    1936 MS66
    1938-S MS66 FB
    1940-D MS64
    1940-S MS65

    Quarters
    1932-S AU55
    1934-D AU58
    1936-D EF45

    Half Dollars
    1949 MS64 FBL
    1952 MS65
    1954 MS64
    1955 MS64 FBL
    1956 MS64 FBL
    1957 AU58
    1962 MS64
    1998-S Matte Finish MS66

    Dollars
    1881 MS64
    1881-S MS64 VAM-1A ANACS
    1889 MS65
    1896 MS64
    1896-O AU50 ANACS
    1897-S MS63
    1899-O MS64
    1901-O MS64
    1902-O MS65
    1904-O MS65

    Peace
    1922 MS65
    1924 MS64
    1926 MS63
    1935 MS61

    3- 1996 Silver Eagles
    1-2007 W- Matte burnished finish I believe.
     
  10. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Got to take risks, no guts no glory right? I honestly do believe I got a fair price on these coins.
     
  11. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, visuals are always so much more helpful! :thumb:
     
  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    This is just a friendly suggestion, but you might want to hold off on buying for a while and use the time to educate yourself. This is not to say you got a bad deal on the listed coins (without knowing what you paid, I cannot say either way), but jumping in head first is very risky for newbies. These designations are very common, so I can only assume that your experience is low. Making an investment in yourself (learning, buying books, etc) will pay off in the long run... trust me on this.

    I would rather not say what I would pay, at least until/unless you disclose how much you did.
     
  13. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    $2,000 for the lot. Breaks down to $55 a coin.
     
  14. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I'll check the actual prices, but seeing $55 per coin and ICG, I just assume you got ripped off. ICG is notorious for overgrading.

     
  15. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

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    So just looking at the coin without the slab, what would you grade it?
     
  16. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I'm somewhat lazy, so I'm going to do this the easy way, so you can do your own research...

    Large Cent
    1819 VF30 Large Date - treat as VF25.
    1855 PCGS VF35 - make note of knob ear.

    Nickels
    1954 SEGS PR68 - treat as raw. SEGS = "self-employed grading service" or "self-evaluation grading system".

    Dimes
    1936 MS66 - treat as MS64
    1938-S MS66 FB - treat as MS65 without FB designation. If FB is confirmed, treat as MS64FB
    1940-D MS64 - treat as MS62
    1940-S MS65 - treat as MS63

    Quarters
    1932-S AU55 - treat as AU53
    1934-D AU58 - treat as AU55
    1936-D EF45 - treat as EF40

    Half Dollars
    1949 MS64 FBL - treat as MS63. If FBL confirmed, treat as MS62FB.
    1952 MS65 - treat as MS63.
    1954 MS64 - treat as MS62.
    1955 MS64 FBL - see above.
    1956 MS64 FBL - see above.
    1957 AU58 - treat as AU55.
    1962 MS64 - treat as MS62.
    1998-S Matte Finish MS66 - treat as MS63.

    Dollars
    1881 MS64 - treat as UNC details.
    1881-S MS64 VAM-1A ANACS - treat as UNC details.
    1889 MS65 - treat as UNC details.
    1896 MS64 - treat as UNC details.
    1896-O AU50 ANACS - treat as EF45 or AU details.
    1897-S MS63 - treat as UNC details.
    1899-O MS64 - treat as UNC details.
    1901-O MS64 - treat as UNC details.
    1902-O MS65 - treat as UNC details.
    1904-O MS65 - treat as UNC details.

    Peace
    1922 MS65 - treat as UNC details.
    1924 MS64 - treat as UNC details.
    1926 MS63 - treat as UNC details.
    1935 MS61 - treat as UNC/AU details.

    3- 1996 Silver Eagles - probably one worth $50-$60 (good luster) other two look like folks might treat them as bullion.
    1-2007 W- Matte burnished finish I believe - You can easily verify this on your own.
     
  17. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I would say AU55/58. Are the scratches on the back on the coin or the holder. If on the coin, I'd say AU details.
     
  18. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Just on the holder. I'm going to be selling most of them so I can keep a few for myself to add to my collection. Book estimate for this lot in the grades stated was roughly $3345, at $2000 I figured there was enough room to sell some and keep some. I guess we'll find out here when I list them.
     
  19. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    If book value is $3345 (I assume Yeoman Red Book?) for the SEGS/ICG grades, you're definitely going to lose money.
     
  20. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    The 1932-S WQ is AU55 or so and has likely, though not definitively, been dipped.
     
  21. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Rather than showing the AU, show the 1949 half and the 1936 dime. Those are the coins where the grade matters to value. AU50/AU53/AU55/AU58 aren't going to be a huge chunk of the value in this lot.
     
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