Small Date

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by buddy16cat, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

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    I know this is a common topic but this penny above has me a little confused. It looks like the 9 loops around. Can anyone tell if it is a small date? I don't use the seven since it is still a tiny bit lower than the other letters. It looks to me like small date because the 9 is looping around and pointing to the seven.
     
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  4. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Yes, I look at them. This one is a little hard to tell because the loop of the nine appears bent.
     
  5. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Large date Buddy.
     
  6. JobIII

    JobIII Active Member

    I gave up on trying to figure this one out a long time ago. Good Luck!!
     
  7. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    It's easy really.

    The hook of the 9 points back to the 7 in the date, and the top edge of the 7 and 9 are even, it's a small date.

    The hook points to the S mint mark, and the top edge of the 7 in the date sets below the top edge of the 9, it's a large date.

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    http://www.lincolncentresource.com/smalldates/1970Ssmalldate.html
     
  8. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    On my coin though, the 9 doesn't point down to the mintmark. It curves around although it looks bent but I don't know if that is something else that is connecting the edge of the loop of the 9. If you see in the picture though, the small date is a little lower than the O and usually just use the 9.
     
  9. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Could have taken a hit on the loop of the 9. Sometimes a small die chip can have an effect on the appearance also. The lack of weakness in liberty and the low 7 look like a large date.
     
  10. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    That is the very reason why the position of the 7 is used as a pick-up point (PUP) for the small date. If the 7 is lower, it's not a small date. Very simple. :) Good luck on getting that small date. It gets easier to recognize when you don't try to ignore the PUP.
     
  11. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    buddy, can you get closer pics?
     
  12. COINnoisseur

    COINnoisseur Professional Amateur

    Pictures are too small
     
  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    It's a large date, no doubt.
     
  14. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Yes, large date.

    That is obviously some sort of mark across the bottom of the loop of the nine. I am surprised there was no 1970s small date in these CWR rolls. I got a call yesterday from a bank manager telling me that they had a lot of CWR. She told me she shipped out $100 worth and she was waiting for me to come in for them so I left her my number. At least I found a couple teen wheats, 1917 and 1913 along with a small pile of common wheats. I usually check for 1970s small dates but only found one roll searching. They are hard to find.
     
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