I sold some rolls of wheaties on EBay, and shipped them in a Post Office flat rate box. I double-checked each roll to make sure it contained 50 coins, and stuffed the box with newspaper to keep them from rolling around. The buyer marked my feedback as positive, but it read "next time tape the ends of your coin rolls, i'm missing a few". The question is, where on earth could they have gone? If one or more of the rolls broke open in shipping the coins should all still have been in the box. (I've emailed him with an offer to replace whatever's missing. I do find it hard to believe that his feedback is just a scam to pick up a few extra, but who knows?)
If you ship alot of rolls, it helps to have one roll with 50 coins that you use as a measuring device, instead of counting coins numerous times. Count once, measure, ship.
i think the guy wanted some bonus stuff too.in this day and age i would say he is pretty much the norm unfortunately.
I have a battery operated coin sorter/counter and I have each of the receiving tubes marked at the one-roll level. Makes it very easy.
Just for perspective, I've left positive feedback for a seller, understanding how important feedback score is to many, but then sent a PM about the coins, not for any advantage, but to communicate a problem. About a year ago, I bought a lot of cents, and there were two each of three different dates where they were not suppposed to be (meaning I was short 3 coins, and had 3 extras). I didn't assume the seller was trying to scam me, and I hoped by me sending that note he didn't assume I was trying to scam him. I didn't ask him to correct - the extras weren't what I bought the lot for, and they were worth less than the postage. He sent an envelope a few days later with the coins - no charge, and while I didn't need to, I bought something else from him versus another seller, even though he was a couple bucks higher, because - well trust is worth something. Anyway, I understand that there are likely more unethical people than there should be, and I guard against it, but I refuse to assume it. My$.02
Let me see. In order to count the coins, he had to open the box and take them out. I wonder what the odds are of him spilling , dropping, whatever else the coins.
and admitting it as in by the way i am kind of clumsy and accidentally dropped some and i am pretty sure one was a 14d in nice condition would you mind sending me another hmmm.i know lots of good people are out there it is just hard to find them.
I use a box to drop my coins into when I'm doing coin roll hunting. Depending on the box, some coins like to play "hide and go seek" underneath the flaps inside the box. or, maybe they are in the news paper...
When you're absolutely sure that you shipped what was intended, a little pushback sometimes works, of course, using diplomacy and the right choice of words. Either they will insist something is wrong, or they will just go away. If they are insistent, make it right (within reason).
I did the exact same thing. I bought a couple coins off of someone, by the looks of their other items, does not sell coins normally. They taped them to a piece of manilla paper. I left them good feedback since I got them cheap but emailed them about not doing that since it can damage the coins. I know this ticks off people. I told them they can just make a coin envelope from the manila paper.
One thing that can help when you sell rolls of coins is to buy those large kitchen storage bags and wrap the rolls up in those. When I have gotten coins sent that way the loosies were still in the bag. Otherwise I have gotten boxes of rolled coins with coins loose all over the place and some missing, probably from holes in the box.
Buyers: If you have a gripe, PM the seller. Do NOT put it in feedback unless it isn't resolved to your satisfaction!
Sometimes ya gotta double bag em! Can we say "Ziplock boys and girls"! But the buyer sounds like the poster child for the entitlement generation!
Personally, I view the buyer as trying to offer constructive criticism. Most buyers of rolls of wheats are not what you would consider advanced numismatists per se, and maybe they were honestly just suggesting a way for you to be better. Sorry, I know I may sound naive, but assuming the best from people makes me a more pleasant person.
Well, his story is that the rolls were all open and the post office had wrapped the box (with a hole in it) in plastic. He claims the count came up short by 22! The rolls were single year, and I don't have enough of what he claims is missing to make it all good. (I don't have any '09 VDBs either.) I like the plastic baggy idea, and will certainly keep it in mind.
The amazing thing is how often the USPS folks mangle soundly packaged goods, delivering this literal 'basket-case' after (frequently) a long delay. I have had two painful experiences of this situation, and I pack very well. That Small FR Box is stout, well designed, and appears able to withstand considerable abuse...but apparently the sorting machinery munches 'em like cookies, on occasion. I use ZipLoc bags for another reason: water! Seems the Postal Laddies 'wash' parcels, now & then...and so, for that matter, does UPS. My shipments are protected against soaking by the cheap and waterproof plastic zipper bag.
Great tip, thanks! I never thought of that. I'll be using zip-locks in all of my future shipments. :thumb: