Why are they called "Rattler" slabs?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Why are PCGS OGH called "Rattlers" is the coin loose in the slab?
     
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  3. largecent37

    largecent37 Coin Collector

    I think because the coin is loose and can rattle around. Not sure though...
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Yep the coins were loose and "rattled " around .
     
  5. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Yup. Because the 1st Gen PCGS slabs weren't "sonically sealed" like their current slabs, there was space for the coin to wiggle or "rattle" around inside the holder.
     
  6. Zachkeaton

    Zachkeaton Cervus non Servus

    I've always wondered about those too. Wouldn't the coin get damaged if it was 'rattling' around in the slab?
     
  7. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    What they said, but OGH and rattlers are two different things. OGH stands for Old Green Holder and they are not rattlers. The OGH slabs have a green inset instead of the current blue ones.
     
  8. pumpkinpie

    pumpkinpie what is this I don*t even

    The design for the OGH holders was actually a rattler inside of another plastic shell.

    There was not a lot of space, sometimes just enough for the coin to wiggle a bit.
     
  9. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Here's an old rattler right here. I sold it awhile back on the bay. :thumb:
     

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  10. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    It's also common to see some coins turned in a rattler slab 45, 90, 135 degrees because of the spare tolerance in the slab.
     
  11. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    A coin can even rotate 360 degrees inside a "rattler" slab... you'll just never know it. :p
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .


    At least you can tap them back to any position you want . : )
     
  13. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I've even heard from classic slab lore that some coins have flipped inside a rattler. Imagine that! :eek:
     
  14. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Those were before PCGS placed that clear rubber-like ring on the coins before slabbing them, and they rattled around in the holder.
     
  15. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    And here I thought it had something to do with PCGS overgrading them. then you would buy one, it would be overgraded and you would get bit on the price.. Just like a rattlesnake biting you..

    OK, so bad joke.. Yes its because the coins in fact did rattle around in the tomb errr slab..
     
  16. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    NO..

    For the Last 12 years there's is NO DAMAGES on my Loose 1995 Double Denomination. Mr. Alan Hager choose the Penny Holder instead a Dime Holder on my Double Denomination as you can see in my Video. The 11c is much more bigger than Normal Dime and smaller on a Normal Cent size. So it is in between of the two sizes.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcMElRG0bKk
     
  17. pumpkinpie

    pumpkinpie what is this I don*t even

    Sigh. This has nothing to do with this thread about PCGS holders..[​IMG]
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, they were sonically sealed. The sonic sealing occurs around the outer edge of the slab, not inside it. All of them have been sonically sealed since day 1.

    I think you're mixed up about the slabs. Conder can correct me if I am wrong, but I think the rattler was the first slab used by PCGS. The first slab within a slab had a white label. Then came the doiley slabs, they were slab within a slab also. The OGH was the 4th kind of slab used by PCGS. And I'm pretty sure the OGH was the first slab to use the inner, soft plastic ring to hold the coin. And they used them until near the end of '98. So the OGH isn't quite as old as most folks think they are.
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    There was a change in the OGH in 1995. Before that time the color in the labels was not colorfast an they would fade to all different colors. These have large digits in the serial number and and start at or to the left of the left edge of the barcode. Starting in mid 1995 the changed the ink in the labels and from then on they stayed green. These have smaller digits in the serial number and it starts to the right of the left edge of the barcode. I refer to these as OGH and NGH (new green holders). Most people do not differentiate them and do not realize they are different. Then they run into one of the off color labels and wonder what it is.

    The rattler holders do not damage the coins in them because the inside of the lenses over the coin are concave and do not touch the surfaces of the coin. The only place where the coin can touch the lens is at the outer edge of the rim. So even if it rotates the surfaces of the coin do not rub against the plastic.
     
  20. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    Sometimes you can still find nice coins in these "rattler" slabs... and if you think they are undergraded you don't need to lose the old holder. Just send them to CAC for a gold sticker and it will almost certainly be suddenly worth more than the next grade up anyways :) Here's a pretty one:

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