Eye Candy for Toned Coin Lovers

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by WingedLiberty, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. WingedLiberty

    WingedLiberty Well-Known Member

    It's hard to pick a favorite thing that you love about toning in a series; but for me, it has to be when you see this sort of "lava flow of color" into the recesses of a coin design. I am not 100% sure why this effect happens. I bet someone on this board might know the physics of this. It almost looks like the color melted and flowed into the low spots, like molten rock or some sort of colorful liquid element flowing like a river through the valleys. This is just beyond beautiful. I am not sure if this type of toning happens in other series, it probably does, but I seem to see it most of the time in the Morgan Silver Dollar series.

    Example #1: Pink molten lava flows around cool green mountains ... (PCGS MS63 OGH)

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    Example #2: Cool turquoise blue water laps against the brown, gold, and green hillsides ... (PCGS MS64)

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  3. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Beautiful!

    It all has to do with the thickness of the silver sulfide layer. It doens't "flow", it just deposits at a different rate.
     
  4. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    Why do you think it is a sulfide?
     
  5. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    #2 is #1..imo...:thumb:
     
  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Bag-toned Morgans have some of the most wonderful coloration!
     
  7. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

  8. petro89

    petro89 Member

    Yep I love those!
     
  9. pumpkinpie

    pumpkinpie what is this I don*t even

    Because silver reacts with sulfur, and silver sulfide is literally what toning is.
     
  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

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  12. tgaw

    tgaw Member

    good info and you can get it for about $46 on ebay new.nice looking coins congrats.
     
  13. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    Thanx for the link. Until I have it, FMI how does a black compound like silver sulphide reflect light in spectrum of colour? Is toning a not a combination of silver insoluble compounds including halides, nitrates and sulphide in combination with insoluble copper related compounds like copper chloride and carbonate (verdigris platina)? I mean, "coin chemstry", if you may call it that, does not supercede the broader field of metallurgy.
     
  14. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Yea, yea....LOL

    I wrote the book while I was laid off. These days I'm working my edited off. The time will eventually come to finish it up. :)
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    As I recall the reason for the coloration (which is dependent on the thickness of the silver sulfide layer) is called thin film interference. Here is a brief overview of the physics:

    http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/light/u12l1c.cfm

    It is only after the silver sulfide layer exceeds a certain thickness that it becomes black.
     
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