Um, does CAC offer a "black bean"?

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  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

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  3. George8789

    George8789 Leaving CoinTalk for good

    Wow what an ugly coin. NGC graders forgot to open their eyes that day. I have pocket lint with better eye appeal.
     
  4. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    I think a "brown bean" would be better for that POC!
     
  5. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    I would make NGC buy it back or riemburse me under their grade guarantee, just out of principle.
     
  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    While extremely ugly, I am not convinced that it is overgraded.
     
  7. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    It should not have been graded. While the reverse still has mint luster, something happended to the obverse, it has no mint luster.
     
  8. Jopn

    Jopn Member

    Been out of collecting for a few years and this CAC is all new to me. Reliable? Just a way to jack prices? Why do they just do PCGS and NGC? No ANACS or SEGS.
     
  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    This is my thought as well. I think the coin is technically graded accurately...it's just ugly. I wouldn't buy it.
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I just think that finding rather ugly high grade Roosevelt Dimes is a common occurrence. They will often have ugly mottled toning, weak details, and muted luster but almost all will have very clean surfaces. Not to mention, it is very difficult to present these coins in a photo as they would appear in hand. Here is another example of an ugly Rosie!

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  11. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I am just having a hard time seeing how a coin could be graded above 60 without mint luster on the obverse and reverse.
     
  12. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Now Paul, that roosie ain't ugly. And the obverse has luster.
     
  13. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I can't help but think I've seen public restrooms with more luster (especially around the rims). :D
     
  14. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    And yet, your photo makes it look half way decent!
     
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    And that is kinda my point. I bet I could make the coin in the OP look half way decent. Even get some obverse luster to shine through.
     
  16. rower41

    rower41 Member

    Is Brilliant really best?
     
  17. pumpkinpie

    pumpkinpie what is this I don*t even

    I thought that eye appeal was a factor when getting into the very high MS grades?
     
  18. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    Uncirculated anf uncleaned? Yes, in my opinion (at least with modern issues).
     
  19. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Not when it comes to grading.
     
  20. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    The thing that struck me most was the apparent total absence of luster on the obverse. I'm sure there must be some visible in hand, but both the auction and certification photos make it look like the thing's been sandblasted.
     
  21. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I think it does, but in an objective way that reflects quality of the strike through detail and mint luster, and preservation of field and devices.
     
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