Um, does CAC offer a "black bean"?

Just came across this stunning example. That obverse is... spectacular?

1947 D ROOSEVELT DIME 10 CENTS NGC MS-66 cert #3402605-016

And, so that the coin can live in infamy even after the auction is forgotten, here's a link to the verify-certification page. You're welcome.

 

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Wow what an ugly coin. NGC graders forgot to open their eyes that day. I have pocket lint with better eye appeal.

 

I think a "brown bean" would be better for that POC!

 

I would make NGC buy it back or riemburse me under their grade guarantee, just out of principle.

 

While extremely ugly, I am not convinced that it is overgraded.

 

It should not have been graded. While the reverse still has mint luster, something happended to the obverse, it has no mint luster.

 

Been out of collecting for a few years and this CAC is all new to me. Reliable? Just a way to jack prices? Why do they just do PCGS and NGC? No ANACS or SEGS.

 

This is my thought as well. I think the coin is technically graded accurately...it's just ugly. I wouldn't buy it.

 

I just think that finding rather ugly high grade Roosevelt Dimes is a common occurrence. They will often have ugly mottled toning, weak details, and muted luster but almost all will have very clean surfaces. Not to mention, it is very difficult to present these coins in a photo as they would appear in hand. Here is another example of an ugly Rosie!

 

I am just having a hard time seeing how a coin could be graded above 60 without mint luster on the obverse and reverse.

 

Now Paul, that roosie ain't ugly. And the obverse has luster.

 

I can't help but think I've seen public restrooms with more luster (especially around the rims).

 

And that is kinda my point. I bet I could make the coin in the OP look half way decent. Even get some obverse luster to shine through.

 

Is Brilliant really best?

 

I thought that eye appeal was a factor when getting into the very high MS grades?

 

Uncirculated anf uncleaned? Yes, in my opinion (at least with modern issues).

 

Not when it comes to grading.

 

The thing that struck me most was the apparent total absence of luster on the obverse. I'm sure there must be some visible in hand, but both the auction and certification photos make it look like the thing's been sandblasted.

 

I think it does, but in an objective way that reflects quality of the strike through detail and mint luster, and preservation of field and devices.