What makes the price of coins go up?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I agree that with many older, especially 1800's type coins, supply is relatively fixed (unless some new hoard is discovered). Therefore, demand will play the dominant role.
     
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  3. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    Like I said, the actual value of the coin remains steady, but the cost to advertise, market, and ship it changes. This adds to the overall cost of the coin. Thus the price of the coin changes.
     
  4. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    My bad. I misread your post. I apologize.
     
  5. marid3

    marid3 Member

    All of the above. It's as simple as Supply and Demand, yet the drivers of those are so infinately complex as to make forecasting prices more futile than the forecasting the weather.

    The logical associated discussion with what drives coin prices, for the collector, is then whether coin collecting is a hobby (expense without expectation of return) or mostly investing (expectation of return). Personally, I believe the answer to that question depends on two simple (yet equally complex) things (like supply and demand) and those two are: The Buyer, and the Purchase.

    Fun stuff - can make your head spin. :smile
     
  6. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you were a philosophy major...:)
     
  7. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    One word. Demand.
     
  8. marid3

    marid3 Member

    Nope. Well, I'm just starting a doctoral program which is a Ph.D, so it is a Doctor of Philosophy. Damn it. Technically, yes, but not from the liberal-arts perspective, no. I'll concede that point.
     
  9. lackluster

    lackluster Junior Member

    Inflation has as much to do with it in general. Almost evrything costs more beacuse people make more. But really your money is worth less per unit.

    Lack
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You might want to take a look at where the peak is on this chart -

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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Congratulations, you found an acorn :thumb:

    Or, they sat there for a long time with nobody wanting them so you got them at melt. But now that he thinks you want them, he raised the prices.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Sure those things can add to the cost, but don't fool yourself into thinking the value of any coin remains steady. The value goes up and down like a yo-yo.

    Between 2001 and 2008 most coins increased in value about 300% as a general rule. Then in the space of 1 year, many lost 50% of that gain. And are still going down.
     
  13. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    So is it true that no matter where you go, there
    you are? :D
     
  14. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I think, therefore, I think I am.
     
  15. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on


    For some reason, I'm thinking you had this same mind -blowing thought months ago on CT. I suggest you re-read your posts and threads and find where that was. If I remember correctly, several knowledgeable members on this forum gave you good information on it back then. :smile
     
  16. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    Agreed. Just wanted to throw out that supply/demand is not the only thing affecting prices.
     
  17. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Maybe world coin collectors don't believe in paying
    100 X more for a full monocle string designation or a
    fully split horsie tail or fully pointed Shakespeare shoes
    with exquisite type 1 tassels. Maybe they "un-lock value"
    by actually paying for coins instead of whimsy.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Don't bet on it Bill. The prices of world coins have literally exploded from what they were 8-10 years ago. Amazingly enough, just like I said they would ;)
     
  19. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    I believe it. The smart money has to go somewhere.
     
  20. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Yeah I think I remember you and JD talking about
    German/Austrian Thalers back in CW.
     
  21. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Hold on Doug. I think I remember the actual thread where
    you predicted a big move towards world coins. Remember
    the thread I started in CW called Ten Years After? I think
    that was it. And you were even collecting Pillar Dollars
    and French gold at the time.
    Good call.
     
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