ID this coin.

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Detecto92, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Looks like a casting defect. And an odd one at that. I would like to hear what some of the other members who collect these have to say. Until I find out more, I'm begrudgingly leaning towards authentic.

    Detecto - the photo works. Next time, try placing it on a plain white sheet of paper. The idea is to get a uniform background. Please measure it precisely and weigh it. Where did you acquire it?
     
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  3. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    coin was purchased from a guy who got it at an estate auction. Each coin in a bag with a paper which had the info written on it. All the other coins looked authentic as they all had different amounts of wear and patina.

    Coin is 5.1 Grams. Width is hard since it's oblong, but one measurement was 23.1 mm.
     
  4. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    "From a guy who got it at an estate auction." - not a good pedigree! Considering that and the stylistic similarities to the good quality fake linked to below, I'm going to lean towards yours being bad.

    http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=100005
     
  5. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Mine has more weight tho.

    So what do I do, list it as "I cannot guarantee authenticy"?
     
  6. thecoin

    thecoin New Member

    Are you talking about eBay, pm me
     
  7. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Yes. It is overweight.

    You do not list it and eat the cost. C'est la vie.
     
  8. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    It could also be that the blob from the cast defect makes it off weight.

    There is also no seam on the sides from a casting.
     
  9. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    All genuine Chinese cash prior to the late 19th century were cast. But the absence of a seam is not in and of itself damning for these issues. That link says that most are around three grams - yours is five, much too great a difference to be accounted for by the flaw.

    A better idea is to hang on to it and learn from the piece, particularly if you are so convinced of its authenticity.
     
  10. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Mine is also oblong, wouldn't a fake be more circular?
     
  11. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Yours should not be oblong. That is probably post mint damage.
     
  12. jlblonde

    jlblonde Señor Member

    5.1grams? That's usually a 2 cash weight range. At that weight the coin should be around 25mm to 28mm in diameter.
     
  13. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Knowing our "boy" it just might somehow:yes:
     
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