1965 silver quarter

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by RONYERBY, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    That's, like, forever! They always answer my emails within five minutes. I think they're ignoring you.
     
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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Do you have any idea how many emails they must receive daily? Probably thousands.
     
  4. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Another option is to use a dealer to submit the coin for you. There are many dealers who have a PCGS membership and will submit coins for a fee. It's far cheaper than getting your own membership if you only are submitting one coin.
     
  5. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    +1
     
  6. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Wow. I just don't see the hatred at all. Skeptisism, yes, but that is reality. I don't understand why you don't weigh the coin. That is a great eliminator of fakes. I hope it turns out to be real with your submission. Good luck.
     
  7. RONYERBY

    RONYERBY New Member

    Update and thanks to the kind members

    Thanks for the phone number, I looked at the website and couldn't find it which is why I emailed. Still no response to the email from them? I called the number and they said minimum of $49 to become a member, they will send submission forms and then $50 for grading a mint error. I forgot to mention in previous posts that the coin was subjected to tests by magnets. Silver will not be attracted to magnets, but the clad will. There was not the slightest magnetic attraction when they touched the magnet directly to the coin. Everything so far checks out as this being the real deal! Only possibility could be an amazing forgery, but why go to all that trouble and put your coin back in circulation, which is how I found it? I am hopeful this is not the case, seems the only farfetched reason this is not the real deal. I will post updates, for all those who thought I was not going to.
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I am not sure where you got that info, but the only nickel is 25% of the thin clad layers (75% copper) over a 100% copper core. So about 92% by weight is non magnetic copper. I tried a neobium magnet I have with a pull of 15lbs, and it wouldn't even move a clad quarter. What kind of magnet did you use?

    Jim
     
  9. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    That's because neither is magnetic. I suggest you try a magnet with the rest of your pocket change because you are certainly mistaken on this.
     
  10. sjlund

    sjlund Member

    Take the few moments to weigh the coin before you spend more than $100 on grading.
     
  11. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    +1
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    That is true...the only magnetic US coin is the 1943 cent.
     
  13. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    There is another test you can do with magnets that will help determine if it is indeed 90% silver. It's called a magnet slide test. You'll need at least a few rare earth magnets to perform the test.

    Clad coins will slide across the magnets with no effect, but the movement of a 90% silver coin across a magnet will generate an inductance which slows the coin down as it's sliding across the magnets.

    [video=youtube;3gUjuS5TzwI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gUjuS5TzwI[/video]
    (The part where he uses the slide starts at about 2:45)

    Keep in mind that pure or nearly pure copper creates the same effect, but nickel is so highly non-magnetic that it destroys this effect, which is why nickel clad coins slide down with no resistance despite having a copper core.

    The best way to use a magnet slide is to compare your subject coin's behavior to a known genuine silver coin of the same type, because 90% silver quarters will slide at a different speed than 90% halves, and a greatly different speed than 99.9% bullion coins.

    If you don't have several good magnets, you can also do the test by sliding one magnet across the surface of the coin, but with coins as small as a quarter, the effect is very hard to observe. You can also feel the effect when you move a coin rapidly towards and away from the magnet. The movement will cause a slight magnetic resistance which makes it feel like the coin is moving in fluid.

    Sliding the magnet across the surface of the subject material works best when the material is large, like these 100 oz bars:

    [video=youtube;NgSXg-WOEVY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY[/video]

    Hope this helps!
     
  14. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Which is the normal fees for joining and submitting a coin for error consideration.


    The "magnet test" is used for determining if the coin is a counterfeit. Genuine U.S. Mint coins, with the exception of the zinc coated steel Lincolns of 1943, will NOT be attracted to a magent.


    Not true. Take any 1964, or earlier coin, made with silver, and they will not attract to a magnet. If they do, they are a cheap counterfeit.

    The materials used to make our coinage will not attract to a magnet.

    Not hardly. The one, and only test, you have yet to perform on this coin is placing it on a scale. Silver quarters will weight 6.25 grams, non-silver, or clad coins, will weigh 5.67 grams.


    For the same reason counterfeit Morgans, 32S Washingtons, 09S VDB Lincolns, would be placed into circulation. So someone who doesn't know anything about coins finds it, and thinks they've hit the motherload.


    Actually, what I stated just above, is the reason this is not the real deal.


    We all eagerly await the results from the TPG. In the mean time; however, could you just weigh it and see what the weight is. That would clear everything up, and may save you over $100 in costs to submit this coin.

    Oh and BTW, did the person you spoke to at PCGS tell you that you not only pay shipping to PCGS but also for PCGS to ship the coin back to you, plus insuring the coin?
     
  15. RONYERBY

    RONYERBY New Member

    I am a novice here. I thought that was the magnet test reason. I guess it was to check for forgery of coin, using magnetic metal under the silver.
     
  16. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Honestly, the best thing you could do is have the coin weighed. Any coin or jewelry shop can do this for you. That is the real determining factor. It's the same thing a TPG would do. I would do that before you invest any money into having this coin graded...I doubt having them weigh would cost anything.
     
  17. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Why are you resisting weighing the coin, or, if it has been weighed, posting it's weight?
     
  18. afox

    afox sometime collector

    TISSUE TEST! TISSUE TEST! TISSUE TEST! (use cookie monster's voice here)

    seriously - check this link if you want to try this test for a silver coin:

    "But if you question a coin as to whether it is silver or not, here is a test that will only cost you 1/2 of a tissue. Pull a facial tissue (two layer) or Toilet paper so that it is one layer thick. Cover a known Silver coin and one you question next to each other and cover the coin with the single layer of paper and see what you see. If the one coin is silver it will appear white colored under the tissue. If they both are white, then both are silver, but if one appears gray , then its not. See if this helps?"

    http://www.cointalk.com/t51294/

    "
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    That is not an accurate test as a coin that is plated in silver can also have the same results.

    The best weigh(pun intended) is for the OP to weigh the coin.
     
  20. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    The OP will not weigh the coin. Conclusion: NOT REAL!
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    And at the end of this test, you'll know whether you have a clad coin with new hairlines or a silver coin with new hairlines. :(

    Seriously, please don't test a potentially valuable coin by "sliding it across" anything.

    With practice, you can feel the perturbations if you wave a magnet across a coin without touching it. Or you can put the coin in a 2x2 and then slide it (gently), although this isn't completely risk-free (and staples will confuse the issue). Maybe it would work to put a piece of wax paper between the coin and the magnet -- but make sure the magnet, not the coin, slides across the paper.
     
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