My 1966 Kennedy half DDO? (pretty sure) /pics

OK, Im pretty sure this is a DDO and there also appears to be doubling on the reverse as well.

ps New camera so bear with the quality on some. And please opinions on value





also any advice on better pictures appreaciated too (new cam is a svp 540hr)

 

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We need pictures of the entire coin, both sides as well.

From the pics you posted, it looks more like MD, or mechanical doubling.

 

tough call.

But from the T it looks like MD.

 

Looks like an SMS coin. I would say it is MD because when they made these they would strike the coin multiple times.

 

I hope that these are what you need and thank you again for any help

 

Not going to be able to see anything from these pics. Try more light from a separate source, like a lamp or two.

 

bright on the whole coin ain't gonna happen at moment

going to have to get myself a seperate lighting frame as lights on microscope/cam just don't cut it when you pull back for full view of coin.
best i can get at moment

 

SMS coin?

I admit I had to look this one up (sms) the coin is sealed in a plastic coin folder with a blue tag sealed in the other side that says,
Security Rare Coins Inc.
Rare Coin Investments
Huntington Station, NY 11746
USA 40% silver half brilliant Uncirculated.

 

Well the actual SMS coins were placed in plastic holders starting in 1966, much like the lenses used in today's proof sets.

This could be an SMS that was removed from the lens and sealed in a cellowrap by a third party vendor.

But I'm quite sure the doubling is MD and not a DD.

 

coin show

Well I took it to the coin show today and let a few dealers take a look at it. The verdict was.....Both it is MD/DDO. One of the dealers (John's Coins) out of billerica Ma. made an offer of $300 on the spot. I declined but he did tell me I should have it graded and slabbed asap. Now that I don't have a local certified pcgs dealer in the area i think i gonna have to submit it to anacs if i want to do so.

 

Machine doubling occurs because the die is loose in the collar and the back and forth movement causes the die to scrape across the device as it is being retracted. It has nothing to do with the number of times a coin is struck which, by the way, is at most twice.

Chris

 

My personal opinion is that you should have sold it to that dealer for $300. I don't figure that it could be worth that much.

Here is some typical doubling from a 1966 SMS Kennedy.

Chris

 

Why not join PCGS and submit it yourself?

 

Here we go again!

The mythical offer!

 

I would have sold it in a heartbeat. Any such small doubling , even if it isn't MD, would have a difficult time getting that price elsewhere. JMO.

Jim

 

poof!

I woulda been gone

 

ehh

Probably should have taken the money, but to be honest, i can't see selling a good coin once i have found it, I didn't when i was i kid can't see me changing that now.
Besides it is probably the 1st time i have had a dealer tell me i should have a coin slabbed. either that or it was A "mine! mine! mine!" moment :devil:

As for joining PCGS myself, I really don't see that i will be submiting many coins for slabbing in my life nevermind a year so without a dealer in the area that pretty much leaves me with anacs.

As for the mythical offer, my son was present to hear it and that's all the proof i will ever need for my purposes i collect to collect, not to make a profit

 

You have to understand something. This type of scenario is common place not only here at CT, but every numismatic forum as well.

New member joins, posts about a coin they think has a rare error, or variety, or whatever; asks opinions from the members, who give those opinions, and sometimes the newbie accepts what they're told, but the majority of the time, they don't like hearing the truth about their coin, and it not being the rarity they want it to be. So to "show those people at the forum", they allegedly take the coin to an "expert" who tells them what they want to hear, that it is the rarity they always thought it was, and to make the story more interesting, they add the alleged offer the "expert" made them for their coin, which they always turn down.

Sorry, was not trying to offend, but we have heard this many times before, and will no doubt hear it many more times to come.

Don't believe me, go read the 1965 silver quarter thread: http://www.cointalk.com/t213811/

That's just one of numerous threads with the same type scenario, as this thread has turned out to be.

As do most of us here at CT. The suggestion to submit it to PCGS or NGC was not for ease of selling this, if it were to be a DDO, but rather for authenticating if the coin is a DDO, DDO and MD, or just MD. PCGS and NGC were recommended as the consensus of the members hear feel those two TPGs are better at grading, attributions, and designations than ANACS, and again, when you join either PCGS or NGC, you don't need to have a dealer to submit your coins to either as your membership allows you to do that yourself.

 

yeah, I can see that bit happening, **** I've heard the stories myself a hundred times. One of them just last week (over an 1976 IH) lol so yes i can very well see your point there

As for the joining of PCGS or NGC, I do see your point and do agree that from what i know both are superioir to ANACS. The issue of course boils down to cost. $150 for membership +$50-100 to grade atribute and designate an error coin the coin vs ANACS $19 base, $10 for atribute and $20 ship & insure totaling $45. So i guess it is really a case of you get what you pay for.

In this case i think (always dangerous) the primary reason being to attribute the coin I would much much prefer PCGS even with the higher research fees I would pay the $100 to have it done. However once i add in the membership fees it just goes beyond what i can comfortably afford close to $250 for the 1st coin or at least that is the way i read their fee schedule + membership fees. If I am all wet with this please let me know because i would greatly prefer pcgs. I actualy hoped to be able to submit it at the coin show going on localy (very small about 10 dealers) but amazingly not one of them is pcgs certified dealer.
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I do collect Kennedy + SMS are one of the few that I do know a few thinks about.
Here the a link that may help.:kewl:
http://varietyvista.com/Variety Master Listings/kennedy doubled dies 1965-1966.htm