Help Grade This 1887-P Morgan, Maybe PL/DMPL ?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by zachfromnj, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

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    Not sure if the pictures are good enough to help assign a grade, I'm not sure about PL / DMPL.
    From my understanding its about how far things can be read, I think??


    I think its cleaned also**
     
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  3. zachfromnj

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  4. papermoney54

    papermoney54 Coin Collector

  5. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Zach, use a ruler, remove the coin from the 2x2, and hold the coin at the end of it. If you can clearly see 2-4 inches of reflection on the surface of the coin, it should qualify for a PL, 6 inches of reflection, DMPL designation.

    I can see some hits on the neck, and hard to tell if that's wear in the hairline above the ear. The reverse looks pretty good.

    Any chance you get closer pics?
     
  6. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

    Does this seem normal?
    The '87 is the one on the left, seems like the edge is odd?

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    Nvm they weigh the same


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    You can thank the magnifying glass for the extra chunky cheek/jaw
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    This wouldn't be an adequate test, but the coin did get DMPL...........

    Chris
     

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  8. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

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    Heres a not so clear picture, I'll post a new one after class

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  9. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    That's why I suggested if you place a ruler on the table, then the coin at the end, you can measure the reflectivity of the coin by what numbers can be clearly seen in the reflection on the coin's surface.

    The only I can see is that you like frozen pizza(didn't know they still made those).
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is DEFINITELY NOT a DMPL from the pictures. There is a chance at proof like, but just looking at the pictures, no way are the mirrors deep enough. Even with a reflectivity test, there are no guarantees that it would be slabbed as even PL, although I wouldn't be surprised at MS 64 PL. Forget about it being DMPL--it isn't. If it is cleaned, which I can't tell from the photograph, as it isn't detailed enough, forget about it being worth anything more than melt.
     
  11. easj3699

    easj3699 Well-Known Member

     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Zach, when you are trying to test one of those you need use a ruler (as suggested) or a business card. The test is if you can clearly read the small print on the business card at the proscribed distances, or the hash marks on the ruler in the reflection. You could also use a newspaper or magazine.

    The idea being you need to be able to clearly read small print, not bold, oversized type.
     
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