In God we Trust

Edited~ Political

No comment by me other than the expression was attempted to be removed on the St Gaud.

 

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More lies from another politician! Mitt is not being up front at all, nevermind. No comment.

 

Ahhh it is the silly season, my opponents sister is a thespian and has been seen masticating in public.

 

Hmmmm.

Where's the motto? http://www.coinfacts.com/three_cents/three_cents_nickel/three_cents_nickel_by_date.html

Where is it on this one?



Let's check this one??



Hmmph!

 

It is OK to discuss the history of the motto, but not in current political rhetoric. So lets stop there,

 

Jim, you were much sexier before you were a moderator. FWIW, I did not think that coinage design becoming a political issue was off the scale by the rules. I thought it was of interest to coin collectors. I don't see how a discussion of if the motto should or shouldn't remain on coins should be prohibited.

Now the coinage debate on the motto's existence of the dollar coins is a point of interest for the romour mill it created on the interent ..

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp

 

The motto wasn't a requirement until the 1950s on coins and currency to my knowledge. Also, the official motto was "E Pluribus Unum" (well, sort of official but unofficial, it was adopted by an Act Of Congress in 1792 as the motto for the seal, etc) before the 50s Congress were persuaded to change it to "In God We Trust", although IGWT showed up during the Civil War era. The first one better represents the diversity of America, but that's just my opinion.

 

i thought it was the 1960s. i could be wrong. the first time it appeared on ANY coin or currency was the 2¢ piece in 1864. it didn't appear on a $2 bill until series 1963.

 

Religious mottos on coins is an old story.

 

Coins are an old story, doesn't make them irrelevant.

 

True, but it was Reverend M. R. Watkinson who campaigned for eleven northern Protestant Christian denominations that wrote a letter in 1861 to petition the Treasury Department to include a religious motto on coins to basically say that God was on the Union side. I was only referring to the history of it being on coins and how it got there.

This style of referring to divine or higher power and creators was very common during this era and especially during war, etc.

Just because leaders have a trust in a higher being doesn't necessarily represent everyone. This country was still founded on secular values, since freedom of religion was important to our founding fathers because most came to America to escape religious oppression. Most of the founding fathers were deists, the Treaty of Tripoli confirms this as it declares that the United States was not founded on the Christian religion. But this is all a different topic, likely not allowed to go any further as it would break the rules what you brought forth now starts to drift into religion/politics and not the motto itself.

 

1956 to be exact.

 

A real stroke of genius.

 

Since everyone seems to have an opinion on the subject...and the first circulating coin with the motto was the 2¢ piece...it could be the genesis of the term "Throwing in your two cents".

Sounds good, anyway

 

All mottos on coins are redundant, ugly and utterly pointless in my opinion. The only writing that should grace a coin is the country of origin's name. Everything else takes away from any pleasing aesthetics that may be attained through art.
Guy

 

Wasn't the term "divine providence" used by the various monarchies to define the power they held over the "minions"?

As for the "moto" on the $20 Saint Gaudens, if I recall correctly, the original design under Teddy Roosevelts direction, did not have the motto on it since it wasn't required by law. It did not appear until the 1908 coins.
But this has probably already been stated.

 

I think that our founding fathers came to this country for the same reasons that folks still come to this country.

Opportunity.

Land, which is the most important asset that ANY man can possess, was readily available unlike in older established monarchal countries where land was "granted" by the reigning monarchs.

 

Here in the Colonies, prior to 1776, all land ownership, initially, was by grant of the Crown.

 

Shouldn't it have it's denomination also?