1931-S/S (RPM) Lincoln Wheat Penny...

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by CrazyZap, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. CrazyZap

    CrazyZap New Member

    Hello, I am hoping someone or even a few people can give me an idea of what this 1931-S over on S (repunched mint mark) in this conidtion is worth. And how should I sell it to get the most from it?
    Thank you
     

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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Welcome to the forum! My opinion is that it is not a RPM, but some Machine doubling. The date also seems to show some of the same. Maybe some others will give their opinion.

    Jim
     
  4. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack New Member

    Definitely looks like an RPM to me?

    It's a nice coin, AU53ish, I'd speculate. As for added value of an RPM, no clue.
     
  5. StandingPride95

    StandingPride95 New Member

    I agree with fadetoblack not sure what this rpm may be worth though.
     
  6. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    It does look like an RPM, but I don’t know, I’ll let others chime in, but it looks off to me. To mention a few things. The typeface, the 3 in the date and the ear look wrong, but maybe it’s just the pics.
     
  7. dsmith23

    dsmith23 Gotta get 'em all

    I agree with Jim, with the doubling on the date as well, I'll have to say its MD.
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    An RPM for the 31-S isn't listed in either Billy Crawford's book on Lincoln die varieties or in the CONECA Master Listing. My eyes aren't that good, so I'd need to see a better close-up of the mintmark.

    Chris
     
  9. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    I would say MDD...note shelf like appearance on the top of the S and around the curve. It would take a better photo of the mint mark to convince me it was an RPM.

    Larry Nienaber
     
  10. cciesielski01

    cciesielski01 Laced Up

    If there is no 1931 s rpm Lincoln in conneca I would also look into the authenticity of this piece. I would consider sending it in for verification. It sounds like you would like to sell it and if it is already graded and slabbed for a buyer that isn't 100% sure of the authenticity of a raw coin they will likely pass on it but if it is graded almost everyone will accept the fact it is indeed authentic. Just my opinion. I am by no means an expert and that is why I have not stated if it is authentic or it is an altered coin. I see no reason for it to be altered but I am not going to base my opinion on photos alone..
     
  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    If it is S/S, and it is found to be the discovery piece, $$$$$.
     
  12. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack New Member

    The only reason I think it looks like an S/S is because of the split serif of the bottom of the S so to speak and the lack of similar machine doubling on the date. Better pics are needed, I'd agree.
     
  13. CrazyZap

    CrazyZap New Member

    Some more pictures of 1931-S/S

    I want to thank everyone for your opinions. I am very new with coins. Here are more pictures to look at.
    Ron
     

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  14. CrazyZap

    CrazyZap New Member

    Mroe pics..

    Some more pictures...
     

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  15. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack New Member

    Still not good enough for me to give a definitive answer, that one will require an in-hand examination unless you can get clearer pics with a high quality macro setup.
     
  16. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    When I bought mine, the research said there are many counterfeits out there, so I bought a certified one. Like I said above, many things appear to be off on that coin.
     
  17. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    If you don’t have a certified one to compare to, search eBay for certified examples, there are several where you can enlarge the coin. Note that the R in LIBERTY should be a different font than the R in TRUST, with this coin they are the same font. Several different fonts have been used on Lincolns over the years. The fonts on this coin match later date Lincolns, but do not match the 1931 era. Compare the 3 in the date, looks nothing like the real one. Compare the ear, much more detail inside the ear on a real one.
     
  18. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    these dates do look different...
     

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  19. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Not sure if different mint marks were used on the 31-s, but the mint marks don't match either.
     
  20. CrazyZap

    CrazyZap New Member

    It looks like the date & mint mark have been flatting on the upper coin. I have compare it to other coins on E-Bay and Google images. I have even compared PCGS graded coins. I have noticed little differences in just about every 1931-S I have looked at. Even two PCGS 1931-S graded coins side by side had some very little differences. I have not figured out haw many different dies were used that year in the San Franciso mint. I do know that the 1909-S VDB had 4 different dies. So I beleieve there is a good posibility that a few were used to mint the 1931-S also. But I am just learning. I have only been dealing with coins (mainly Indian Head & Wheat Pennies) for 9 months. I have purchased about 60-70,000. And have sold 40-50,000 so far.
     
  21. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    That may be correct, the top coin above does appear somewhat flattened. However, compare to other unc certified coins and you'll see the same difference on the 3, as well as the font used for LIBERTY. Look at the shape of the field inside the top loop of the 3, it's the same on all 31-s I've seen, yet it's not for the op coin. Check post #16 for other differences,
     
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